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From: Nuutti Kotivuori <naked+caml@naked.iki.fi>
To: Olivier Andrieu <andrieu@ijm.jussieu.fr>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Object-oriented access bottleneck
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:53:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87smju9jwv.fsf@naked.iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16341.52076.429385.418402@akasha.ijm.jussieu.fr> (Olivier Andrieu's message of "Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:17:32 +0100")

Olivier Andrieu wrote:
> What are you talking about ? The Obj module and in particular
> Obj.set_field is about modifying caml values (records, variants,
> tuples, whatever), not caml objects.

Yes, this is understood.

> Access to instance variable in objects is not inlined because you
> can't statically known in which slot is the variable. Ex:
>
> class foo = object val x = 0 end
> class bar = object val y = 1 inherit foo end
>
> In an object foo, x is in slot 0, but in an object bar, x is in slot
> 1. (Actually that's not 0 and 1 but 2 and 3 because the object
> stores other stuff in the first two slots).

Yes, quite so. But if we _do_ know the exact implementation of the
object, and we know in which order the variables in the object are, we
can *abuse* Obj.set_field to manipulate those values directly. So
that's about as close to the definition of unsafe as you can get.

As for your example about inheriting - there would have to be quite
some trickery to be done to be able to this working with
inheritance. In C++, with equivalent declarations, a typecast from bar
pointer to a foo pointer actually returns a different pointer value -
one that is at the start of class foo inside bar. This obviously
wouldn't work in OCaml, because of the block headers and all that.

-- Naked

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-09 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-07  2:39 Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-07  2:59 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-12-07 11:22   ` Benjamin Geer
2003-12-07 14:12     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-12-07 18:04   ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-07 10:27 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-12-07 19:46   ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08  1:07     ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-12-08 15:08       ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 15:42         ` Richard Jones
2003-12-09  0:26           ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-12-09 12:10             ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-09 13:17               ` Olivier Andrieu
2003-12-09 13:53                 ` Nuutti Kotivuori [this message]
2003-12-08 17:51       ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-08 18:19         ` brogoff
2003-12-08 20:09           ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-08 19:02         ` Xavier Leroy
2003-12-08 21:37           ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-08 21:06             ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 22:30             ` malc
2003-12-07 18:23 ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-07 18:14   ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-07 19:30     ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-07 23:50       ` Abdulaziz Ghuloum
2003-12-08 17:29         ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-08 18:48           ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 10:17       ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 19:51       ` skaller

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