From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FC5B7EE51 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 21:16:15 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of mmatalka@gmail.com) identity=pra; client-ip=209.85.160.44; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="mmatalka@gmail.com"; x-sender="mmatalka@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: domain of mmatalka@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.44 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.160.44; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="mmatalka@gmail.com"; x-sender="mmatalka@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@mail-pb0-f44.google.com) identity=helo; client-ip=209.85.160.44; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="mmatalka@gmail.com"; x-sender="postmaster@mail-pb0-f44.google.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkICAGh/XFHRVaAsk2dsb2JhbABDgmZXQcAHgQ0WDgEBAQEHCwsJFAQkgh8BAQQBQAEbHQEDAQsGBRgJJQ8BBA8RAQUBIhMUh20BAwkGAQYFojyML4J7hEAKGScNWYh8AQUMjw0Hg0ADkHCHGopUgzY/hEo X-IPAS-Result: AkICAGh/XFHRVaAsk2dsb2JhbABDgmZXQcAHgQ0WDgEBAQEHCwsJFAQkgh8BAQQBQAEbHQEDAQsGBRgJJQ8BBA8RAQUBIhMUh20BAwkGAQYFojyML4J7hEAKGScNWYh8AQUMjw0Hg0ADkHCHGopUgzY/hEo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,402,1363129200"; d="scan'208";a="11656394" Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 03 Apr 2013 21:16:14 +0200 Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id wz12so1017908pbc.17 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=u7hqeSvJL+5FC/3M00IMryqmzvMIY86KgrfxSpdBPWU=; b=DG676hlBILhuZkBRohA/ZPRZgM8RFV8MzZo5yn8Cgxpq77+xSYwSwZquy2EKDmC4Hn OuRBUESmjWcWDpngd3vcyooBEue2U0qvq0U6LOcBTV2Ok4Ho1frTEv2c5/ostC/ZXb5P B/t4CPkA1sk/URPPtaclqAELFv0uoSFgHro0q5iWTJ0QYkxIeafOyvAxxisVM1aPGPL8 sogyvaXIBXS+WbJRYBZJNX7Jrw3oS8KYhW6dqZGNDIDcf0hPxSxb5x11H+gbG49eFVJj dJBowO7EHt7H8xhN2NujVRhR3TvqUeC5PjC2ufi9husS90N3V6hNa71PEeJp8DfKU6C8 paGA== X-Received: by 10.68.217.202 with SMTP id pa10mr4498453pbc.11.1365016572697; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:4d21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ti8sm7046901pbc.12.2013.04.03.12.16.09 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:16:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Malcolm Matalka To: Anil Madhavapeddy Cc: Martin Jambon , "marius a. eriksen" , Amir M Chaudhry , "caml-list\@inria.fr users" , Gerd Stolpmann References: <1365008078.10138.3@samsung> <515C6EB7.7010109@ens-lyon.org> <0D64637F-0E34-41C8-9097-7A54E640C602@recoil.org> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:16:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0D64637F-0E34-41C8-9097-7A54E640C602@recoil.org> (Anil Madhavapeddy's message of "Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:33:17 -0700") Message-ID: <87txnn8lxk.fsf@li195-236.members.linode.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OUD2013 part of CUFP? I, for one, have had an amazing time at the two CUFPs I've attended. I was also really happy OUD took place during the last CUFP. I don't get to use Ocaml professionally so CUFP is my best bet for getting to interact with the Ocaml community in person, which is a great experience. /Malcolm Anil Madhavapeddy writes: > On 3 Apr 2013, at 11:02, Martin Jambon wrote: >> >> "Spreading the word widely" doesn't happen like that - it's the core of the problem. >> >> In thought the goal was to raise awareness among professional software developers who might consider trying some more "functional" approaches to programming. >> Pardon my cynicism, but this is different from a meeting whose goal is to show academics that their pet language was used by that one person in that big company and then pat each other on the back. > > Are you all in a bad mood today or something? That's quite the mischaracterisation of CUFP. Let me sample some of the videos from the CUFP website (at http://cufp.org/videos) > > * Scala at Twitter > http://cufp.org/videos/scaling-scala-twitter-marius-eriksen-twitter > * Facebook Chat in Erlang > http://cufp.org/videos/functional-programming-facebook > * Freebase and Metaweb in OCaml (now part of Google) > http://cufp.org/videos/functional-programming-freebase-warren-harris-metaweb > * Scheme for games development in Uncharted 3 > http://cufp.org/videos/functional-mzscheme-dsls-game-development > * F# at Microsoft for biological computing > http://cufp.org/videos/using-f-prove-stabilisation-biological-networks > http://cufp.org/videos/f-embracing-functional-programming-visual-studio-2010-luke-hoban-mic > * Big data at Nokia using Erlang/OCaml: > http://cufp.org/videos/disco-using-erlang-implement-mapreduce > > And I haven't even mentioned our usual friends from Citrix or Jane Street: > * http://cufp.org/videos/citrix-haskell-xenclient > * http://cufp.org/videos/jane-street-status-report > > And many more, of varying size and impact: there's been an interesting evolution from the 'bedroom FP user' to large companies that use it > without blinking an eye. All of this has been tracked by CUFP over the years, although we unfortunately don't have videos from the earliest > ones. > > Please do stop directing your ire at a workshop that has done its best to broaden the appeal of FP for nearly a decade now, and do start > thinking about getting involved in the (many) open-source events that are out there these days. Anyone can propose talks at places like > Strange Loop and OSCON, and your travel and registration is often covered by the event organisers. > > -anil