automake and ocaml

automake and ocaml

[Daniel Molina]

Hello all.

I have searching in the net about ocaml compatibility for automake. I
have found a patch from automake by Tom Murray in 2003

http://sourceware.org/ml/automake/2003-12/msg00153.html

and I had seen that this issue was talked in the caml mailing list

http://mirror.ocamlcore.org/caml.inria.fr/pub/ml-archives/caml-list/2006/11/e3887787f977667f7277226415d632c0.en.html

Do anybody knows the state of this matter nowadays? Some page that I can
read? I only want to find a method that works properly.

Many thanks.

Re: [Caml-list] automake and ocaml

[Vincent Aravantinos]

Le 21 sept. 09 à 05:41, Daniel Molina a écrit :

> Hello all.
>
> I have searching in the net about ocaml compatibility for automake. I
> have found a patch from automake by Tom Murray in 2003
>
> http://sourceware.org/ml/automake/2003-12/msg00153.html
>
> and I had seen that this issue was talked in the caml mailing list
>
> http://mirror.ocamlcore.org/caml.inria.fr/pub/ml-archives/caml-list/2006/11/e3887787f977667f7277226415d632c0.en.html
>
> Do anybody knows the state of this matter nowadays? Some page that I  
> can
> read? I only want to find a method that works properly.

There is also this project:

http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/ocaml-autobuild/

which seems quite dead, though.

V.

Re: [Caml-list] automake and ocaml

[Stéphane Glondu]

Vincent Aravantinos a écrit :
> There is also this project:
> 
> http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/ocaml-autobuild/
> 
> which seems quite dead, though.

The last commit was two months ago:

http://darcs.ocamlcore.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=ocaml-autobuild;a=summary

I don't think this qualifies as "dead"...

-- 
Stéphane

Re: [Caml-list] automake and ocaml

[Vincent Aravantinos]

Le 21 sept. 09 à 09:59, Stéphane Glondu a écrit :

> Vincent Aravantinos a écrit :
>> There is also this project:
>>
>> http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/ocaml-autobuild/
>>
>> which seems quite dead, though.
>
> The last commit was two months ago:
>
> http://darcs.ocamlcore.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=ocaml-autobuild;a=summary
>
> I don't think this qualifies as "dead"...

Indeed, sorry. btw how did you get this link ? I couldn't find it from  
the project site.

Notice I didn't said it *was* dead but it *seems* dead, and indeed:
- no announce
- 0% activity
- no activity on any forum, list or bug reports
- no homepage except the default one
- dvpt status = Planning after having been registered one year ago
- no file available (in the section "files")

I guess it's not currently "usable" (?)

V.

Re: automake and ocaml

[Sylvain Le Gall]

On 21-09-2009, Vincent Aravantinos <vincent.aravantinos@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Le 21 sept. 09 à 09:59, Stéphane Glondu a écrit :
>
>> Vincent Aravantinos a écrit :
>>> There is also this project:
>>>
>>> http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/ocaml-autobuild/
>>>
>>> which seems quite dead, though.
>>
>> The last commit was two months ago:
>>
>> http://darcs.ocamlcore.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=ocaml-autobuild;a=summary
>>
>> I don't think this qualifies as "dead"...
>
> Indeed, sorry. btw how did you get this link ? I couldn't find it from  
> the project site.
>
> Notice I didn't said it *was* dead but it *seems* dead, and indeed:
> - no announce

Not yet released and not finished enough to be announced.

> - 0% activity

That is because I use darcs which is not accounted for activity.

>
> I guess it's not currently "usable" (?)
>

Well, it is usable for pure ocaml projects. I am still working on C
file. I use it on several of my own project. 

I am REALLY planning to work on it quite soon to have something
released. Please give me time...

Regards,
Sylvain Le Gall -- ocaml-autobuild dev.

Re: [Caml-list] Re: automake and ocaml

[Vincent Aravantinos]

Le 21 sept. 09 à 10:18, Sylvain Le Gall a écrit :

>> I guess it's not currently "usable" (?)
>
> Well, it is usable for pure ocaml projects. I am still working on C
> file. I use it on several of my own project.

Nice! Worth waiting for it then.

Re: [Caml-list] automake and ocaml

[Richard Jones]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 09:53:40AM +0200, Vincent Aravantinos wrote:
> There is also this project:
> 
> http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/ocaml-autobuild/
> 
> which seems quite dead, though.

I don't think that one is dead.

Also for autoconf macros for OCaml, see:

  http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/ocaml-autoconf/

Rich.

-- 
Richard Jones
Red Hat

Re: [Caml-list] automake and ocaml

[Stéphane Glondu]

Daniel Molina a écrit :
> I have searching in the net about ocaml compatibility for automake. I
> have found a patch from automake by Tom Murray in 2003
> 
> http://sourceware.org/ml/automake/2003-12/msg00153.html

There are autoconf macros for OCaml available there:

  http://ocaml-autoconf.forge.ocamlcore.org/


Cheers,

-- 
Stéphane

Re: automake and ocaml

[Sylvain Le Gall]

On 21-09-2009, Daniel Molina <lalluviamola@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> I have searching in the net about ocaml compatibility for automake. I
> have found a patch from automake by Tom Murray in 2003
>
> http://sourceware.org/ml/automake/2003-12/msg00153.html
>
> and I had seen that this issue was talked in the caml mailing list
>
> http://mirror.ocamlcore.org/caml.inria.fr/pub/ml-archives/caml-list/2006/11/e3887787f977667f7277226415d632c0.en.html
>
> Do anybody knows the state of this matter nowadays? Some page that I can
> read? I only want to find a method that works properly.
>

I try it and even try it to work a new version on my own. The problem is
that automake is deeply tight with C compilation. Supporting other
languages that do not compile the same way as C (.c -> .o -> .exe / no
header compilation) is a nightmare and really difficult to maintain
overtime inside automake...

Take a look at ocaml-autoconf for configure time and ocamlbuild for link
time.
http://ocaml-autoconf.forge.ocamlcore.org

If it is a pure OCaml project, you can try to use ocaml-autobuild (but
it dev. status, you will need to fecth the darcs repo):
http://ocaml-autobuild.forge.ocamlcore.org
http://darcs.ocamlcore.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=ocaml-autobuild;a=summary

Regards,
Sylvain Le Gall

Re: [Caml-list] automake and ocaml

[Richard Jones]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:41:14AM +0200, Daniel Molina wrote:
> Do anybody knows the state of this matter nowadays? Some page that I can
> read? I only want to find a method that works properly.

You don't really need automake to support OCaml directly.

See for example:

http://hg.et.redhat.com/cgi-bin/hg-virt.cgi/applications/ocaml-libvirt--devel/
http://hg.et.redhat.com/cgi-bin/hg-virt.cgi/applications/virt-top--devel/
http://hg.et.redhat.com/cgi-bin/hg-virt.cgi/applications/virt-df--devel/

for some ideas on how to use automake with OCaml projects.

Rich.

-- 
Richard Jones
Red Hat