From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E45467EE80 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 02:50:34 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch) identity=pra; client-ip=74.55.86.74; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-sender="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=74.55.86.74; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-sender="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@smtp.webfaction.com) identity=helo; client-ip=74.55.86.74; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-sender="postmaster@smtp.webfaction.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvwBAMgJTVFKN1ZKkWdsb2JhbABDiDG9O4F/DgEBAQEJCxIUKIIkAQEEASNWBQsLGgImAgJHECGIBgYEr1iSHIEjjUIzBxaCFzJhA5xPE44R X-IPAS-Result: AvwBAMgJTVFKN1ZKkWdsb2JhbABDiDG9O4F/DgEBAQEJCxIUKIIkAQEEASNWBQsLGgImAgJHECGIBgYEr1iSHIEjjUIzBxaCFzJhA5xPE44R X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,896,1355094000"; d="scan'208";a="7536664" Received: from mail6.webfaction.com (HELO smtp.webfaction.com) ([74.55.86.74]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2013 02:50:33 +0100 Received: from [172.20.10.2] (81-235.197-178.cust.bluewin.ch [178.197.235.81]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F7B20BE451; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 01:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 02:50:26 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_B=C3=BCnzli?= To: jon@ffconsultancy.com Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Message-ID: <9A66F5EADDC4422EB4797A6CDB331C01@erratique.ch> In-Reply-To: <01fb01ce2763$ec22c3f0$c4684bd0$@ffconsultancy.com> References: <878v5lca2c.fsf@li195-236.members.linode.com> <9813208.KJBpLPkkvX@groupon> <069c01ce25ab$a9cf3f10$fd6dbd30$@ffconsultancy.com> <06b901ce25ca$cc415be0$64c413a0$@ffconsultancy.com> <514B81CB.3070103@etorok.net> <01a501ce2725$f3e530c0$dbaf9240$@ffconsultancy.com> <01ba01ce2736$e2973280$a7c59780$@ffconsultancy.com> <6C6F2DEFCC284DE9BB3ECC2A62FC8BD6@erratique.ch> <01c401ce274a$785ff1e0$691fd5a0$@ffconsultancy.com> <29025F595E9343479E21A54CC92048AA@erratique.ch> <01fb01ce2763$ec22c3f0$c4684bd0$@ffconsultancy.com> X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Haskell vs OCaml Le samedi, 23 mars 2013 =C3=A0 02:15, Jon Harrop a =C3=A9crit : > How do you reconcile having to reinvent the wheel by writing my own OpenG= L bindings with Yaron's assertion that OCaml is "highly productive"? I don't have to reconcile anything, these are not my words.=20=20 I care about quality software, "highly productive" caries no qualitative as= sessment, a lot of people are "highly productive" but produce only shit.=20= =20 Sometimes you have to invest to ground yourself on good foundations. > What shortcomings? Lots of so called "modern" opengl functionality needed for high performance= graphics has been missing for a long time (e.g. buffer objects). Lack of b= igarray support. Lack of shader support (no longer true but was for a long = time). Basically a design rooted in the "old" OpenGL of the late nineties, = OpenGL has been moving.=20=20 Daniel