From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30C9D45F for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:24:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jA4MOfIs005872 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:24:41 +0100 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA09067 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:24:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jA4MOdvr018337 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:24:40 +0100 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t10so1377146wxc for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:24:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UJncvYuBRa1BbcPHhy/lhUISNTEq/V09JljN9+6KjDGf5o46r/npYRJmI2B8bz0XtreHfgcFCy6k++CCRawrSW4k0Uz4dDxeDel1/ekBgrsth6nP6ZNnxnJZM5dBymzKaLR1QM397/OBglubrEgihCjWy1sQDan6Nl89IFiUV5o= Received: by 10.70.40.9 with SMTP id n9mr2522791wxn; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.8.20 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:24:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9bbd27940511041424y591c3fb4yaae753f6fff1a5d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:24:39 -0800 From: Alex Goldman To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Wikipedia In-Reply-To: <1131141215.13512.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200511031726.59561.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <9bbd27940511041305i5d33cb46y8eba0538a16acfd0@mail.gmail.com> <1131141215.13512.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 436BDFA9.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 436BDFA8.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 gerd:01 stolpmann:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 smell:98 speechless:98 disseminate:98 spamming:98 stellar:98 spamming:98 wrote:01 wrote:01 objective:02 objective:02 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 On 11/4/05, Gerd Stolpmann wrote: > Am Freitag, den 04.11.2005, 13:05 -0800 schrieb Alex Goldman: > > On 11/4/05, Thomas Fischbacher > > wrote: > > > > > "most of my links" =3D "most of the links I set to my own pages". > > > Wikipedia is not for self-promotion. At least, it *does* smell a bit > > > strange if there are far more links to ffconsultancy on the Wikipeda > > > page than to INRIA pages, don't you agree? > > > > The title of his user page alone will leave you speechless: Dr. Jon D. > > Harrop BA MSci PhD. I've never met anyone who used both Dr. and Ph.D. > > at the same time, and that includes very accomplished people. > > Come on, this is not fair. > > > Wikipedia has a policy against self-promotion and link spam. The > > purpose of Wikipedia is to disseminate generally useful and objective > > encyclopedic knowledge. Instead, Harrop uses it to make > > self-aggrandizing claims and increase the Google ranking of and > > traffic to his "company" to sell his book. > > This is not fair, too. The links to his own pages can nevertheless be > objective. Actually, there are lots of scientific sites where very > well-known authors also sell their books (by including links to Amazon > etc.). Do the authors of said scientific sites (Harrop's isn't one of them) spam Wikipedia with links to their sites, while hiding behind anonymous IPs (until they are discovered that is)? The point is, if Harrop doesn't have megalomania, he sure acts like he does. Look at some earlier versions of the Wikipedia article. He spammed every section with a blatant link to his "ffconsultancy". "Uses of Ocaml: 1. Something 2. Visualization {{link to ffconsultancy}}. (No more uses) " C'mon, Ocaml is a general purpose language. He also diluted his spamming with "useful" info that incidentally betrayed his less than stellar knowledge of the subject in the first place. The bad benchmark page is just an ad, really, a pretext to link-spam. Look at his constant USENET spamming and trolling, if you don't see a very old pattern here.