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From: Benedikt Meurer <benedikt.meurer@googlemail.com>
To: Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr>
Cc: caml users <caml-list@inria.fr>, caml@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:08:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A13461DE-ABE1-477D-996A-F299E277AF40@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE09590.2060705@frisch.fr>


On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:46 , Alain Frisch wrote:

> On 12/08/2011 11:28 AM, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
>> The problem is IMHO that there is no one at INRIA caring about ARM.
> 
> I'm pretty sure you mean "core development team", not INRIA.  INRIA is a large research institute, you know. And as I said, the "core development team" is not limited to members of INRIA.

Right, of course, wrong wording.

>> In an open model we would have maintainers for the ARM port(s).
> 
> Yes, I argue for opening the current model a little, by enlarging the existing core team. Creating a new "core team" would create more frustration and problems than it would solve, in my opinion.  We have enough fragmentation in this community.

I don't know what's the best to move on. But whatever it will be, the entry barriers for contributors and new maintainers should be lowered and both the process and the outcome of decisions should be opened up, IMHO. Otherwise the overall situation will stay the same; OCaml may have an ARM maintainer then, but will continue to lack an XYZ maintainer, even though there are patches and contributors. Enlarging the existing core won't magically improve communication / contact with the community; as Gabriel noted there are human issues in play here.

>> I wasn't aware that there is a separate communication channel for the core team. I was under the impression that the caml-list was the best way to reach both the core team and the community.
> 
> I confirm that the best way to contact the core team is caml@inria.fr (see http://caml.inria.fr/contact.en.html).

Ok, I'll keep them CC'd. I don't want to start a new private discussion with them as that certainly won't help with openness either.

> Alain

best regards,
Benedikt

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-08 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-08  9:10 Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-08  9:54 ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-08 10:28   ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-08 10:46     ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-08 11:08       ` Benedikt Meurer [this message]
2011-12-08 16:42       ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-08 10:47     ` ivan chollet
2011-12-08 14:07       ` oliver
2011-12-08 11:11     ` Pierre-Alexandre Voye
2011-12-08 18:18       ` Török Edwin
2011-12-09 21:42         ` oliver
2011-12-08 10:16 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-08 11:07 ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-09  2:11 ` Jacques Garrigue
2011-12-09 10:37   ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-12-09 11:03     ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-09 11:17       ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2011-12-09 11:50         ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-09 12:36           ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-09 23:22         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-09 22:33       ` oliver
2011-12-09 14:24     ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-09 17:00       ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-12-09 17:36         ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-09 17:45           ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-12-09 23:24             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-10  9:31               ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-10 14:45 ` Xavier Leroy
2011-12-10 15:58   ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-12 10:21     ` Xavier Leroy
2011-12-12 10:59       ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-12 12:20         ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-12-12 15:17           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-19  4:09           ` Romain Beauxis
2011-12-19 17:35             ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-12 12:57         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-10 17:06   ` Török Edwin
2011-12-10 18:28   ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-12-10 18:34     ` Wojciech Meyer
2011-12-10 19:10       ` Wojciech Meyer
2011-12-10 20:55         ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-12-10 21:40           ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/p5 type reflection [was: OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)] Wojciech Meyer
2011-12-10 23:34             ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11  0:47               ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/p5 type reflection [ Wojciech Meyer
2011-12-11 11:19                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 18:14                   ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-12-11  9:04               ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/p5 type reflection [was: OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)] Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-11  9:36                 ` Török Edwin
2011-12-11 10:29                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 11:23                   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-11 11:38                     ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 10:20               ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-11 10:47                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 13:27               ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-11 13:35                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 13:42                   ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-11 13:36                 ` Arnaud Spiwack
2011-12-11 13:46                 ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-10 23:28   ` [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again) Jesper Louis Andersen
2011-12-11 11:02     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-13 19:36       ` oliver
2011-12-14 12:13         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 10:03           ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-11 13:33   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-11 13:59     ` [Caml-list] Community distribution [was: OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)] Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-12 17:48   ` [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again) Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-13 20:39     ` [Caml-list] New experimental ARM backend [was: OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)] Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-14  9:18       ` Mark Shinwell
2011-12-14 21:51         ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 11:57       ` [Caml-list] " Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 13:08         ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 14:50           ` Alexandre Pilkiewicz
2011-12-18 16:42             ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 17:23           ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-21 10:11             ` [Caml-list] " Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 13:16         ` [Caml-list] " Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-17 18:36   ` [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again) Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-18  4:25     ` Till Varoquaux

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