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From: "Mattias Waldau" <mattias.waldau@abc.se>
To: <caml-list@inria.fr>
Cc: <leary@nwlink.com>,
	"Jonathan Coupe" <jonathan@meanwhile.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Why is Ocaml better than Java (WAS: [Caml-list] ocaml complexity)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:05:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AAEBJHFJOIPMMIILCEPBCEBCCMAA.mattias.waldau@abc.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010608024102.A13672@jean>

> How much time and money do development teams spend creating and tracking
> down memory management errors in C and C++ starting on day one?  At least
> some of the benefits are immediate and ongoing.

Why this obsession comparing Ocaml with C/C++? C/C++ isn't used out there
except for Linux-development, low-level programming and embedded
development.

No one writes applications using C/C++, they use Java, Visual Basic. Some
open source developers use Python, PHP and similar. Some use Fortran and
Delphi.

Talking about memory management with a programmer using anything else than
C/C++ is a waste of time.

The real questions is how to convince a Java-programmer to start using
Ocaml.

The arguments I can list is:
- speed
- polymorphism, no casting needed (will be solved in next generation of
Java, so this
argument will disappear)
- closures (however can always be programmed using local class with
()-method)
- better typechecking makes higher order functions simple to use (however, I
  think that a local class in Java will be as good)
- compact programs (Java programs are very long)
- easy integration with C (easy in VB, I haven't tried it in Java)

Plz help me with more arguments
/mattias

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-06-08 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-07  8:58 [Caml-list] ocaml complexity leary
2001-06-07 18:29 ` Jonathan Coupe
2001-06-08  9:41   ` leary
2001-06-08 10:05     ` Mattias Waldau [this message]
2001-06-08 13:31       ` Why is Ocaml better than Java (WAS: [Caml-list] ocaml complexity) Pierre Weis
2001-06-08 16:37         ` William Chesters
2001-06-08 21:39       ` Brian Rogoff
     [not found]       ` <Pine.BSF.4.21.0106081430070.27414-100000@shell5.ba.best.co m>
2001-06-08 22:16         ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-08 12:27     ` [Caml-list] ocaml complexity Jonathan Coupe
2001-06-08 20:22       ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-08 20:31         ` Miles Egan
2001-06-08 22:17           ` Jonathan Coupe
2001-06-08 22:18             ` Miles Egan
2001-06-11 14:05             ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-09 19:41           ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-08 22:59         ` David Fox
2001-06-09  0:43         ` leary
2001-06-09  1:09           ` Mark Wotton
2001-06-09  8:36           ` Markus Mottl
2001-06-09 20:58           ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-08 22:46       ` leary
2001-06-09  1:18         ` David Fox
2001-06-12 14:17           ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-13 15:21             ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-13 20:32               ` leary
2001-06-13 22:58                 ` Johann Höchtl
2001-06-13 21:18               ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-09 22:32         ` Jonathan Coupe
2001-06-11  0:20           ` leary
2001-06-08 10:15 Why is Ocaml better than Java (WAS: [Caml-list] ocaml complexity) Dave Berry
2001-06-11 19:36 Jean-Marc Eber

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