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From: "Mattias Waldau" <mattias.waldau@abc.se>
To: "Rolf Wester" <rolf.wester@ilt.fhg.de>, <caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Whither the Caml Consortium?
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:52:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AAEBJHFJOIPMMIILCEPBMEOCDDAA.mattias.waldau@abc.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BD58FBC.24509.6BA76944@localhost>

It is very difficult to get enough money to be able to support, maintain and
sell a programming language. Just see how difficult it is for ML companies
(2 failed attempts) and Lisp. (Lisp companies typically charge $5000 and
upwards per developer).

(SICStus Prolog actually lives on licenses and it works.)

That means that when Inria stops to support Ocaml, the language will most
likely die unless the open source community takes over. The code the Ocaml
is reasonable documentet which makes it possible to maintain it.

Regarding a killer-application in Ocaml to show that Ocaml is best, we have
to find a program that MANY people need. Just look how difficult it is to
create a good email program for Linux (Evolution is at last getting ready).
Such an application could be built using Ocaml instead. It would work, no
buffer overuns would reduce the number of security glitches. The only
problem is that almost all killer application has graphical user interfaces,
and I still haven't seen a good looking Ocaml-program (any pointers?).

Unison could be a killer application, but it lacks all user friendliness.
However, not so many people need syncronization.

/mattias

P.s. As a CTO for a programming company, I would say that $500-1000 per
developer and year would be a resonable licensing fee.

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-24 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-15 20:37 Brian Rogoff
2001-10-15 20:55 ` Patrick M Doane
2001-10-19 23:23   ` Michel Mauny
2001-10-20  2:50     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-20  3:58       ` Julian Assange
2001-10-20 15:29       ` Markus Mottl
2001-10-21  1:17         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-21 23:06           ` Markus Mottl
2001-10-22 15:47             ` Rolf Wester
2001-10-23 10:22               ` Markus Mottl
2001-10-23 13:41                 ` Rolf Wester
2001-10-24 13:52                   ` Mattias Waldau [this message]
2001-10-24 14:11                     ` Markus Mottl
2001-10-24 14:18                     ` Cuihtlauac ALVARADO
2001-10-25  6:05                       ` Sven
2001-10-26 14:16                       ` Dmitry Bely
2001-10-26 15:51                         ` Francois Rouaix
2001-10-26  8:45                     ` Benjamin C. Pierce
2001-10-24 13:59                   ` Markus Mottl
2001-10-25  9:54                   ` Frank Atanassow
2001-10-24 13:56                 ` Mike Leary
2001-10-22 17:25         ` Michel Mauny
2001-10-22 17:36           ` Ken Rose
2001-10-22 19:08             ` Markus Mottl
2001-10-23 10:08               ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2001-10-23 10:52                 ` Markus Mottl
2001-10-24 14:48             ` Xavier Leroy
2001-10-24 15:17               ` Markus Mottl
2001-10-24 17:35               ` Joshua D. Guttman
2001-10-25 18:46                 ` Michel Mauny
2001-10-24 15:57             ` Sven
2001-10-24 17:05               ` georges mariano
2001-10-25  6:13                 ` Sven
2001-10-25 17:36                   ` Michel Mauny
2001-10-25 10:00               ` Hendrik Tews
2001-10-25 15:45                 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2001-10-30  8:52                   ` Hendrik Tews
2001-10-30  9:21                     ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2001-10-25 18:37                 ` Michel Mauny
2001-10-26  9:56                 ` Sven
2001-10-30  9:00                   ` Hendrik Tews
2001-10-26 12:13                 ` [Caml-list] user contributions to the core OCaml distribution? Xavier Leroy
2001-10-29 11:15                   ` Sven
2001-10-22 18:41           ` [Caml-list] Whither the Caml Consortium? Markus Mottl
2001-10-22 18:47       ` Xavier Leroy

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