From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0BBBC57 for ; Sun, 16 May 2010 01:39:47 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak4EAHLN7ktKfVI2jmdsb2JhbACSAot2CBUBAQEBEgoaIqpMggCEEC6ITgEBAwWFCwQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,238,1272837600"; d="scan'208";a="51216319" Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com ([74.125.82.54]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 16 May 2010 01:39:47 +0200 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34so149217wwb.27 for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 16:39:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cDrgD5G66OrsiUiuRfBVTQEnpkdiGarS4UP/9e4WRB8=; b=Zo8KTuzbZid04njfgZSn4ePo1bCMaeFKFD4kGDZ0nSkX9EmJVzwkKcS2w4fMO+41OG iDptKGNnvjuagCbJwNma0IcMtspij+dgh1WEoWodJuwQE+jsJnv4+YfFv3LwJfXxUWch IqpDCC9eB48dEJogqzfEIwo/fnIMEN/RaO/9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Bc4sBp1kNh5NzpopqqoLkZm5QzP3qymTHWFPR2jlGvpM6TF/nF2IgsyaHiV0Dpc+sx pLZJAn98G0o5ClfHlNBKxL9EsX7NMUmXNyw5JhZegC+9CTmALeXYk1JhAgU2KBXKnYWf 9835QrhP1uBK/3iSTy2T9BNoV9U/0hnEKlrSw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.163.79 with SMTP id z57mr1871006wek.17.1273966787515; Sat, 15 May 2010 16:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.45.69 with HTTP; Sat, 15 May 2010 16:39:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100516081854.f9e02b8d.mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com> References: <49505E67-4974-4F0B-A6B7-0E87214E92BB@gmail.com> <20100515104348.7c6b4fd2.mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com> <03A0495B-0850-4799-A01F-D5EABBA51DEC@gmail.com> <20100516081854.f9e02b8d.mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 01:39:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Caml-list] about OcamIL From: ben kuin To: caml-list@inria.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam: no; 0.00; consultants:98 caml-list:01 ugly:04 middle:94 install:05 installed:05 computing:05 computing:05 linux:07 linux:07 blocks:07 mean:08 mean:08 alternatives:08 complexity:09 > Microsoft was your saviour because Microsoft caused all your problems > in the first place. Ok, the topic here is personal and office computing. I mean cubical drones who are not allowed to used right mouse button? Consultants and their 20 MB powerpoints? Middle management assholes with the portable devices, always busy with syncing stuff from some weird Exchange source to another place. Grandpa who is trying to install his new scanner which also a tv receiver, because the isp told him he also watch tv over internet? It's one ugly amorphous quickly fluctuating mess that happens if you endow the average end user with a PC and throw them into a hit-and-run market environment. So far linux was spared by the end user and 'personal computing'. Would linux be really capable to enhance the personal computing experience not only for the enduser but also for the developer? I see two stumbling blocks: - X/X11/X org: I support a few members in my family and friends with linux installations and problems. X is a source for a lot of grieve. The complexity of X punches the end user to often. I dont see alternatives though. - Applications: I mean the way enduser application are developed deployed and installed. The best way would be mono, unfortunately a forbidden fruit because microsoft was too stupid to really set it free.