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From: Jacques Le Normand <rathereasy@gmail.com>
To: Dario Teixeira <darioteixeira@yahoo.com>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@yquem.inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Generalized Algebraic Datatypes
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:53:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikM0-ANgozwLriqdot3b9D7=LBPRHxaY8Kiz=EO@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <904846.44200.qm@web111513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

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Assuming I understand this syntax, the following currently valid type
definition would have two interpretations:

type 'a t = IntLit of 'a constraint 'a = int

One interpretation as a standard constrained ADT and one interpretation as a
GADT. We could use another token, other than constraint, for example:

type 'a t = IntLit of 'a : 'a = int

to which I have no objections. As you pointed out, though, the current
syntax is more concise.

cheers,
--Jacques

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Dario Teixeira <darioteixeira@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > I am pleased to announce an experimental branch of the O'Caml compiler:
> > O'Caml extended with Generalized Algebraic Datatypes. You can find more
> > information on this webpage:
>
> I have a couple of questions regarding the syntax you've chosen for GADT
> declaration.  For reference, let's consider the first example you've
> provided:
>
> type _ t =
>  | IntLit : int -> int t
>  | BoolLit : bool -> bool t
>  | Pair : 'a t * 'b t -> ('a * 'b) t
>  | App : ('a -> 'b) t * 'a t -> 'b t
>  | Abs : ('a -> 'b) -> ('a -> 'b) t
>
>
> There's something "Haskellish" about this syntax, in the sense that type
> constructors are portrayed as being like functions.  While this does make
> sense in Haskell, in Ocaml it feels a bit out of place, because you cannot,
> for example, partially apply a type constructor.
>
> Also, note that in all the variant declarations the final token is 't'.
> Are there any circumstances at all where a GADT constructor will not end
> by referencing the type being defined?  If there are not, then this syntax
> imposes some syntactic salt into the GADT declaration.
>
> I know this is not the sole syntax that was considered for GADTs in Ocaml.
> Xavier Leroy's presentation in CUG 2008 shows a different one, which even
> though slightly more verbose, does have the advantage of being more
> "Camlish".
> Is there any shortcoming to the 2008 syntax that resulted in it being
> dropped
> in favour of this new one?
>
> Best regards,
> Dario Teixeira
>
>
>
>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-29 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-29 14:32 Dario Teixeira
2010-10-29 15:03 ` Jacques Le Normand
2010-10-29 15:19   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-10-29 15:53 ` Jacques Le Normand [this message]
     [not found] ` <129751088.61814.1288367649864.JavaMail.root@zmbs4.inria.fr>
2010-10-29 16:02   ` [Caml-list] " Xavier Leroy
2010-10-29 16:42     ` Dario Teixeira
2010-10-29 21:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-29 21:37   ` [Caml-list] " bluestorm
2010-10-29 23:01     ` Jacques Le Normand
2010-10-30  5:14       ` Jacques Garrigue
2010-10-30 13:04         ` Jacques Carette
2010-10-30 13:50         ` Dario Teixeira
2010-10-31 14:15     ` Wojciech Daniel Meyer
2010-10-31 14:35       ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-10-31 14:49         ` [Caml-list] " Lukasz Stafiniak
2010-10-31 15:08           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-10-31 15:31             ` [Caml-list] " Lukasz Stafiniak
2010-10-29 22:05   ` Wojciech Daniel Meyer
2010-10-30 13:35   ` Dario Teixeira
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-25 10:17 [Caml-list] " Dario Teixeira
2010-10-25  8:39 Jacques Le Normand
2010-10-25  9:44 ` [Caml-list] " bluestorm
2010-10-26  5:30   ` Jacques Le Normand
2010-10-27 21:07 ` Florian Hars
2008-04-28  5:35 Generalized algebraic datatypes Jacques Le Normand
2008-04-28  6:50 ` [Caml-list] " Gabriel Kerneis

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