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From: ben kuin <benkuin@gmail.com>
To: Sylvain Le Gall <sylvain@le-gall.net>, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: about OcamIL
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 01:51:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTu6OVQs1_Z_WQcIBYhgTuslOy7O5tmROLOP6k@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <slrnhurg31.iqc.sylvain@gallu.homelinux.org>

sylvain, between the lines I think you're say I'm overreacting. I
would put it the other way around and say it's sad when people aren't
aware of such "details".

Once I've tried my luck with the D language, just to give another
tragic example. I think if its inventor walter bright settled all
those subtle licensing issues earlier, the language had a much bigger
following today. Now it's too late.

In case of mono I think they should have rigorously abandon *all* the
non-ecma parts (ado.net, windows.forms, asp.net,...) from the start.
And the special agreement "non-lawsuit" whatever agreement between
novell and microsoft was the nail in the coffin for mono as the
standard vm on linux. The ship has sailed.

It's really sad if see when great achievements can't unfold its
potential because of such minor issues. Programming environments on
linux are particulary delicate in this regard especially because there
are so many community-focused languages today such as Python. I don't
think something closed like the JVM had the slightest chance today to
take off. The alternatives aren't bad enough anymore.

Maybe I care for hlvm too much :-)

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sylvain Le Gall <sylvain@le-gall.net> wrote:
> On 14-05-2010, ben kuin <benkuin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Isn't this precisely the aim of Jon's hlvm
>>> (www.ffconsultancy.com/ocaml/hlvm/)?
>>
>>
>> licensing:
>> Hlvm is driven by a company and its landing page is on a companies
>> website and one of its protagonists is smart *and* business savvy.
>> What if hlvm would really take off, could they set it free and move
>> the homepage to sourceforge ?
>
> Last time, I checked hlvm homepage was here:
> http://hlvm.forge.ocamlcore.org
>
> What difference will it make to set it on sourceforge?
>
> The reasoning you apply to a possible change of license can be applied
> to a lot of thing in Open Source World...
>
> Regards,
> Sylvain Le Gall
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-14 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-05 12:06 ben kuin
2010-05-05 14:19 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
     [not found]   ` <i2sc0c8bc8b1005051446q34b07d37xc4021d2b4b23d4e2@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <4BE28085.5090100@lexifi.com>
2010-05-06 10:59       ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 18:58 ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-05 19:16   ` Ed Keith
2010-05-05 20:15     ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-05 22:13     ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-05 22:36       ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 23:13         ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-06 10:45           ` ben kuin
2010-05-06 14:38         ` Tim Hanson
2010-05-05 22:18     ` ben kuin
2010-05-06 11:13       ` Ed Keith
2010-05-06 10:43     ` Dmitry Bely
2010-05-06 16:33       ` Peng Zang
2010-05-07  7:26         ` Dmitry Bely
2010-05-07  8:25           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-05-10 21:53         ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-11 11:22           ` ben kuin
2010-05-11 16:39             ` Peng Zang
2010-05-11 17:35               ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-11 23:47               ` ben kuin
2010-05-12  1:57                 ` Peng Zang
2010-05-12 11:56               ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-11 17:38             ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-12 12:28             ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-12 13:11               ` forum
2010-05-14 10:40                 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 10:58                   ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-14 11:51                     ` forum
2010-05-14 11:51                   ` forum
2010-05-16 20:31                     ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-17  7:53                       ` forum
2010-05-19  0:17                         ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-19  7:46                           ` forum
2010-05-19 11:29                             ` Michael Ekstrand
2010-05-19 13:27                               ` [Caml-list] " Eray Ozkural
2010-05-19 13:35                                 ` David Allsopp
2010-05-19 15:23                                   ` Erick Tryzelaar
2010-05-19 16:49                                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-19 16:48                                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-20  2:03                             ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 13:55                   ` Ed Keith
2010-05-14 15:17                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-14 16:26                     ` ben kuin
2010-05-14 16:32                       ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 20:08                         ` ben kuin
2010-05-14 21:28                           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-05-14 21:29                             ` [Caml-list] " Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 23:51                             ` ben kuin [this message]
2010-05-15  0:48                           ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 18:11                       ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-14 18:59                         ` ben kuin
     [not found]                           ` <AANLkTik-EuZRmX8VKMdAIsO_t8JGHvS6F9TPVLkohed8@mail.gmail.com>
2010-05-14 21:42                             ` Fwd: " Raoul Duke
2010-05-14 21:47                               ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 21:57                                 ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-15  0:16                                 ` ben kuin
2010-05-15  0:43                                   ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-15  2:16                                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 21:27                                       ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-16  3:19                                         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15  9:45                                     ` ben kuin
2010-05-15 12:07                                       ` Ed Keith
2010-05-15 12:17                                       ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-15 13:21                                         ` ben kuin
2010-05-15 22:18                                           ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-15 23:39                                             ` ben kuin
2010-05-16  3:23                                             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 13:23                                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 21:45                                       ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-15 21:44                               ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-15 22:25                                 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-16  2:04                                   ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-16  3:20                                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-16 17:50                                     ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-16 19:15                                       ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 21:59   ` ben kuin

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