From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89263BC57 for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 01:51:31 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao0EAHZ/7UtKfVK0gGdsb2JhbACRVownCBUBARQkIq4yggCEcy6ITQEBAwWFCwQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,234,1272837600"; d="scan'208";a="51189764" Received: from mail-wy0-f180.google.com ([74.125.82.180]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 15 May 2010 01:51:21 +0200 Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so542063wyb.39 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:51:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nE0Qsu2TJPCb4s4D/zOB+6MMx5ifQJIaOC4pwwMOi5A=; b=XiTIOtit0yqoj2hSJHArVWnjKhilADmIlBjY2r2rkdI3K+gUWQvIlx5rKPQ+EBtMab E2X/qDStDoL2RMBiIKyW1CcWOurn0UxCP1mJ0Kv+hbn+dNELj6jba+YRjn75n1hF9rHm S8hvHPXmMWCJ4mLkdAjhsqTak1FKGcePElVI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E3HgTuddg6sqNRLVwScnI1xF895LTOzDc5eDSZ3u0vrDX/sbfY9y7h3uM9+/cY3xkY EywqsYeL2K0KlwK6qqaNhg7jvinXRz3tK+iaAUHDln+XQ4q3ZlvfurWD9v8DajOO8R+E 24zXyY7VPylFEI9uj+CkPNFSnoOLc8/xc9nwY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.163.79 with SMTP id z57mr1194232wek.17.1273881080615; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.45.69 with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:51:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <088201caf1ce$b5060cb0$1f122610$@com> <20100512151137.26894ywcpv71ixvk@imp.ovh.net> <012601caf351$e9a362e0$bcea28a0$@com> <87fx1uh5r5.fsf@frosties.localdomain> <0E1811BF-59F6-4531-8A65-67B60A4F345D@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 01:51:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: about OcamIL From: ben kuin To: Sylvain Le Gall , caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam: no; 0.00; le-gall:01 ocaml:01 beginner's:01 ocaml:01 bug:01 inventor:98 ,...:98 nail:98 coffin:98 landing:98 sourceforge:01 sourceforge:01 beginners:01 wrote:01 wrote:01 sylvain, between the lines I think you're say I'm overreacting. I would put it the other way around and say it's sad when people aren't aware of such "details". Once I've tried my luck with the D language, just to give another tragic example. I think if its inventor walter bright settled all those subtle licensing issues earlier, the language had a much bigger following today. Now it's too late. In case of mono I think they should have rigorously abandon *all* the non-ecma parts (ado.net, windows.forms, asp.net,...) from the start. And the special agreement "non-lawsuit" whatever agreement between novell and microsoft was the nail in the coffin for mono as the standard vm on linux. The ship has sailed. It's really sad if see when great achievements can't unfold its potential because of such minor issues. Programming environments on linux are particulary delicate in this regard especially because there are so many community-focused languages today such as Python. I don't think something closed like the JVM had the slightest chance today to take off. The alternatives aren't bad enough anymore. Maybe I care for hlvm too much :-) On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sylvain Le Gall wrote: > On 14-05-2010, ben kuin wrote: >>> Isn't this precisely the aim of Jon's hlvm >>> (www.ffconsultancy.com/ocaml/hlvm/)? >> >> >> licensing: >> Hlvm is driven by a company and its landing page is on a companies >> website and one of its protagonists is smart *and* business savvy. >> What if hlvm would really take off, could they set it free and move >> the homepage to sourceforge ? > > Last time, I checked hlvm homepage was here: > http://hlvm.forge.ocamlcore.org > > What difference will it make to set it on sourceforge? > > The reasoning you apply to a possible change of license can be applied > to a lot of thing in Open Source World... > > Regards, > Sylvain Le Gall > > _______________________________________________ > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management: > http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list > Archives: http://caml.inria.fr > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs >