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From: Eray Ozkural <examachine@gmail.com>
To: Jon Harrop <jonathandeanharrop@googlemail.com>
Cc: Benedikt Meurer <benedikt.meurer@googlemail.com>,
	caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCamlJIT2 vs. OCamlJIT
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 03:17:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikr2M61MoxcHVhU5SkFRZpbe_iSs=DV9LWJoo2r@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Jon Harrop <
jonathandeanharrop@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > As does assembler, so even more reasons to emit assembler?
>
> LLVM makes it a *lot* easier to generate efficient code, of course.


Just like the way gcc is using a hierarchy of program representations from
high-level to low-level, an ocaml compiler could in principle perform type
and language specific optimization passes in the high-level (cmm for
instance) and then emit llvm code, without any loss of efficiency, I think.

Still, I have to agree with other posters stating that a compiler backend
written in ocaml is preferable. I agree, if not only for the reason that I
know from experience it would be 10 times easier to write in ocaml some of
the passes I have had to deal with in C++. Even working with symbols is
quite awkward in C++. While on the other hand, libraries like boost can help
at times, but it is nothing we cannot replicate in ocaml. As a compiler
developer, I would be most intrigued in profiling and static analysis
information represented in ocaml.

I don't see why hybrids are a bad idea, though. If you see LLVM becoming an
industry standard, then, of course it's worth supporting. It means you'll
target new architectures with no effort.

Best,

-- 
Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate.  Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy
http://myspace.com/arizanesil http://myspace.com/malfunct

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-02  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-30  8:36 Benedikt Meurer
2010-11-30 10:48 ` [Caml-list] " Török Edwin
2010-11-30 10:55   ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-11-30 17:01     ` bluestorm
2010-11-30 17:26       ` Török Edwin
2010-11-30 18:27         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-11-30 17:29       ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-11-30 17:32       ` Yoann Padioleau
2010-11-30 22:06         ` Jon Harrop
2010-11-30 22:48           ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-01 14:11             ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-01 15:00               ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-01 22:03                 ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-02  1:17                   ` Eray Ozkural [this message]
2010-12-03 10:03                   ` ocamlopt LLVM support (Was: [Caml-list] OCamlJIT2 vs. OCamlJIT) Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-03 13:34                     ` Till Varoquaux
2010-12-03 13:41                       ` Eray Ozkural
2010-12-03 14:06                         ` Török Edwin
2010-12-03 21:16                       ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-05 16:44                       ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-03 14:32                     ` Philippe Strauss
2010-12-03 21:22                       ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-03 21:45                         ` Philippe Strauss
2010-12-03 15:32                     ` Michael Ekstrand
2010-12-03 21:34                       ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-03 20:07                     ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-05 16:37                       ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-05 16:57                         ` Török Edwin
2010-12-05 20:54                           ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-05 20:12                         ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-05 21:21                           ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-05 21:44                             ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-06 22:38                             ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-05 22:41                           ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-12-05 22:34                         ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-12-06  8:27                           ` Benedikt Meurer
2010-12-06  9:28                             ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2010-12-06 11:08                         ` Richard Jones
2010-12-06 20:18                           ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-01  0:16           ` [Caml-list] OCamlJIT2 vs. OCamlJIT Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-12-01  1:34             ` Yoann Padioleau
2010-12-01 12:58             ` Jon Harrop
2010-12-01 13:55               ` ivan chollet
2010-11-30 21:19       ` Jon Harrop

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