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From: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
To: Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr>
Cc: OCaML List Mailing <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity and GADTs
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:56:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ABAAA0EE-A2AE-4AAA-B475-80D4AA9C10D2@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <517F6BB9.4070703@frisch.fr>

On 2013/04/30, at 15:59, Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr> wrote:

> It's reassuring to see that the conservative solution (not assuming injectivity of user defined abstract types) does not seem too bad for now, even if not very satisfying.
> 
> I'm only concerned with:
> 
>> 3) The problem I describe in my first mail. I.e. when defining a type,
>>   if you use type variables appearing in constrained type parameters,
>>   you need the type constructors leading to the type variables to be
>>   injective. This is PR#5985, and it is only fixed in branches/non-vanishing.
> 
> Do you think that fixing this unsoundness (without injectivity annotations) would lead to reject existing programs?

Potentially yes.
But I don't know how it is in practice for code existing now.
Hence my question.

I have now committed the fix in trunk, so people can try it.

A reason the impact is going to be limited, is that usually when defining
a GADT for type witnesses, one only lists predefined types, and uses
another mechanism for user defined types, like what is done in Core.
If you use a mechanism based on equality witnesses, (lack of) injectivity
already came in the way before, so this is not a new phenomenon.

For other applications of GADTs, you are defining type indices yourself,
so you just have to be careful to use concrete types instead of abstract types.

Jacques Garrigue

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-30  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-28  0:02 Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-28  2:45 ` Markus Mottl
2013-04-28 10:28   ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-28  5:54 ` Jacques Le Normand
2013-04-29  3:45 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-04-29  4:03   ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-04-29  5:17 ` Jacques Le Normand
2013-04-29  7:58   ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-29 10:52     ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-29 11:23       ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-29 16:37         ` Nathan Mishra Linger
2013-04-29 23:53           ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30  5:45       ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-05-04  6:46         ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-05-04  7:09           ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-05-04 12:28             ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30  6:59       ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-30  7:56         ` Jacques Garrigue [this message]
2013-04-30  8:02           ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-30  8:18             ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30  9:11               ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-04-30  9:55                 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30 10:12                   ` Leo White
2013-04-30 11:30                     ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-04-30 13:06                       ` Leo White
2013-04-29  7:59   ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-01 14:47 ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-01 23:20   ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-07-03 16:08     ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-03 16:13       ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-04  6:07         ` [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity oleg
2013-07-04  7:35           ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-05 10:30             ` oleg
2013-07-05 12:02               ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-04  1:00       ` [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity and GADTs Jacques Garrigue
2013-07-04  8:14         ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-04  8:52           ` Jacques Garrigue

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