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From: "forum@x9c.fr" <forum@x9c.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] [ANN] Kaputt 1.0 alpha
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:13:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B12DFA30-1C90-42A7-A4C8-BB1A9E18B221@x9c.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tz9xt6bb.fsf@aryx.cs.uiuc.edu>


Le 24 nov. 08 à 17:52, Yoann Padioleau a écrit :

> forum@x9c.fr writes:
>
> Hi Xavier,
>
>> Selon Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@upsilon.cc>:
>>
>>> (...)
>>
>> I was indeed aware of oUnit when I started working on Kaputt.
>> The initial intent was to provide OCaml with something along
>> the lines of the QuickCheck library developed for Haskell
>> (http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~rjmh/QuickCheck/). Clones of QuickCheck
>> exist for various languages (caml-list@inria.fr) but not for OCaml,
>
> Actually I posted a few years ago a small module imitating parts of  
> quicheck:
>
> http://aryx.kicks-ass.org/~pad/ocaml/quickcheck.ml

Sorry, I failed to remember this.


> Apparently they even now use my ugly file in the Janet Street Core  
> Library.
>
>
>> even if a QuickCheck equivalent is provided by the Reins library
>> (http://ocaml-reins.sourceforge.net/).
>
> I didn't find much in this ocaml reins library ... and it
> looks quite heavy in functors ...

Yes, I indeed wanted to rely upon functions/combinators instead.
It seems lighter this way.


> Your library looks very good, very clean. I just noticed you missed
> the 'pair' and 'tuple' random generators.

Well, maybe their names are not intuitive but Generator.zip{1..5}
allows to combine n generators into a generator returning tuples
of order n (zip1 being the identity function).


> One criticism is that like many other libraries, such as oUnit,
> ocamlcalendar, they seem a little bit heavyweight. You got hundreds
> of functions, 5 modules ...

That's true but it seems hard to have a combinator-based library with
few functions/combinators. With too few combinators, you leave too
much work to the developer (including a lot a boilerplate code).
With too many combinators, you request the developer to take more
time in order to use the library. I find it hard to calibrate the size  
of
the library.

Maybe things could be done in a lighter way by using objects ?


Xavier


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-24 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-23 20:57 barista
2008-11-23 21:30 ` [Caml-list] " Stefano Zacchiroli
2008-11-23 23:14   ` forum
2008-11-23 23:22     ` forum
2008-11-24 16:52     ` Yoann Padioleau
2008-11-24 17:08       ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-11-24 19:13       ` forum [this message]
2008-11-24 21:49         ` [Caml-list] " Christophe Raffalli
2008-11-24 22:05           ` Yoann Padioleau
2008-11-24 22:52           ` forum
2008-11-25  9:55             ` Jeremy Yallop

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