From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FDFD81799 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:56:48 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch) identity=pra; client-ip=74.55.86.74; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-sender="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=74.55.86.74; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-sender="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None (mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@smtp.webfaction.com) identity=helo; client-ip=74.55.86.74; receiver=mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch"; x-sender="postmaster@smtp.webfaction.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsECAAQV8FFKN1ZKemdsb2JhbABagzsBg1i6WYEsDgEBCQ0KCBIqgiUBAQQBAiBWEAsaAiYCAigfEAYbiAgECKdQkU6BKI4iMweCXzNuA5UYg3CEZxOOPw X-IPAS-Result: AsECAAQV8FFKN1ZKemdsb2JhbABagzsBg1i6WYEsDgEBCQ0KCBIqgiUBAQQBAiBWEAsaAiYCAigfEAYbiAgECKdQkU6BKI4iMweCXzNuA5UYg3CEZxOOPw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,736,1367964000"; d="scan'208";a="22156703" Received: from mail6.webfaction.com (HELO smtp.webfaction.com) ([74.55.86.74]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2013 19:56:47 +0200 Received: from [192.168.14.157] (unknown [62.49.66.12]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E6B21C4E36; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 18:56:42 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_B=C3=BCnzli?= To: Gabriel Scherer Cc: Anil Madhavapeddy , Markus Mottl , Thomas Gazagnaire , Gerd Stolpmann , Fabrice Le Fessant , Francois Berenger , Ocaml Mailing List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1374669368.25411.5@samsung> <1B6BB035-9909-4F0C-9DEA-F713B977A467@ocamlpro.com> <7F8931D5-E65D-49EB-B54D-A50716F3EFDD@recoil.org> X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [Caml-list] GODI is shutting down Le mercredi, 24 juillet 2013 =C3=A0 18:05, Gabriel Scherer a =C3=A9crit : > While we're at it (and hoping a diversion might restores some > constructiveness in this discussion), I have also been thinking about > this aspect of OASIS that I don't really like. I use ocamlbuild > -use-ocamlfind, but I'd rather build my _tags and myocamlbuild.ml > files completely separately from OASIS, and avoid that intermixing of > several tools.=20=20 Yes. I have always done that during development since oasis was getting in = my way. I don't want that indirection. I know how to use my build system, I= don't want it to be generated by someone else. But then I would use oasis to make releases which meant expressing these bu= ild rules in oasis which is not always obvious and/or possible without stil= l needing to have to patch your _tags file (e.g. syntax extensions) and whe= n things were not working you were left with that 350 loc myocamlbuild.ml f= ile and an obnoxious _tags file that you didn't write. At a certain point I realized that oasis was actually making very few thing= s for me: basically generating the META and being able to express condition= al dependencies. When I understood a little bit more about opam, its build:= section and its .install files and read about META files I realized that c= ost/benefit of using oasis was too high.=20=20 Personally I'm moving away from oasis for new packages and will gradually p= hase out its usage during maintenance release of my old packages. The path = I'm taking from now on until something better emerges is described here [1]. Best, Daniel [1] http://lists.ocaml.org/pipermail/opam-devel/2013-July/000161.html