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From: Kuba Ober <ober.14@osu.edu>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] C++/C# inheritance is bad?
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:22:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BAC98FB8-5E8B-4E18-A1AF-421ABC3A4D07@osu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200901171659.36732.jon@ffconsultancy.com>


On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Jon Harrop wrote:

> On Saturday 17 January 2009 14:35:22 Kuba Ober wrote:
>> I wonder how such a hierarchy would be implemented in a natural way
>> in OCaml?
>
> Assuming you stick with accepted wisdom, you would mimic the same  
> effects
> using OCaml's object system, just as LablGTK does. However, you have  
> picked
> the only pedagogical OO example: GUI widgets.

Perhaps that's where OO paradigm really shines. I'm very much against
shoehorning everything into it, of course.

> In contrast, metaprogramming is the pedagogical example for algebraic
> datatypes. There is almost no need for users to extend the abstract  
> syntax
> tree but there is huge value in being able to rewrite expressions  
> using
> pattern matching. There is an idiomatic OOP solution to this problem  
> that
> involves visitor patterns and so forth but it is comparatively  
> verbose,
> obfuscated and unmaintainable.

You've got me there -- I never liked the visitor pattern, and by  
extension
the event-based XML parsers written in C-like languages.

Cheers, Kuba


  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-17 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16 15:18 Kuba Ober
2009-01-16 15:58 ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2009-01-16 16:28   ` On the benefits of OO, Was: " Jan Kybic
2009-01-17 12:40     ` Oliver Bandel
2009-01-16 18:27 ` Raoul Duke
2009-01-16 21:42   ` Kuba Ober
2009-01-17  3:14     ` Sashan Govender
2009-01-17 14:07       ` Kuba Ober
2009-01-18  6:24         ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2009-01-17 13:27 ` Jon Harrop
2009-01-17 14:35   ` Kuba Ober
2009-01-17 16:59     ` Jon Harrop
2009-01-17 21:22       ` Kuba Ober [this message]
2009-01-17 22:17         ` Jon Harrop
2009-01-17 23:29           ` David Teller
2009-01-17 23:49             ` Jon Harrop
2009-01-19 16:22       ` Visitor in OCaml [was Re: [Caml-list] C++/C# inheritance is bad?] Yoann Padioleau
2009-01-19 16:41         ` blue storm
2009-01-19 17:49           ` Richard Jones
2009-01-19 17:52           ` Visitor in OCaml Christophe TROESTLER
2009-01-21 20:09           ` Yoann Padioleau
2009-01-22  4:03             ` [Caml-list] " Yaron Minsky

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