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From: "Andrew Kennedy" <akenn@microsoft.com>
To: "Michael Vanier" <mvanier@cs.caltech.edu>, <bemann@execpc.com>
Cc: <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] ocaml for Mono/.NET?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:33:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BCDB2C3F59F5744EBE37C715D66E779CE31CFA@red-msg-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> (raw)

Our SML.NET implementation compiles the functors of Standard ML by
expanding them at compile-time.

There *is* a tension between supporting all the features of the source
language and at the same time providing smooth inter-operation with
other .NET languages. Hopefully for functional languages this tension
will lessen when parametric polymorphism is supported by the .NET CLR. 

- Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Vanier [mailto:mvanier@cs.caltech.edu] 
Sent: 21 July 2002 00:27
To: bemann@execpc.com
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml for Mono/.NET?


> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 00:25:49 -0400
> From: Travis Bemann <bemann@execpc.com>
> 
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 12:31:52AM -0700, Michael Vanier wrote:
> >
> > Are there any plans to port ocaml to .NET?  Given that the Mono
> > implementation of .NET is coming along nicely, having an ocaml
compiler
> > that can compile to .NET IL would greatly increase ocaml's
visibility, not
> > to mention solving some of the library and packaging issues that
keep
> > coming up with ocaml.  I know about the F# project, but that
implementati=
> on
> > appears to be only for a subset of ocaml, and is controlled by
Microsoft.
> > I'd be happier with something from the core ocaml team.  Of course,
MY
> > motivation is that I'd like to be able to write nifty graphical apps
in
> > ocaml under Linux.  After all, once you learn ocaml, C# is not
really very
> > tempting ;-)
> 
> The thing is that this subset is FORCED by the inherent design of the
> CLR/.NET bytecode virtual machine, which doesn't support stuff like
> parameterized modules.  Any attempt to port something like OCaml to
> something like CLR/.NET will only result in its bastardization, and
> thus the loss of many of its features/advantages.
> 

That's interesting, considering that standard ML is one of the languages
supposedly targeted by the common language runtime (by which I mean that
the SML team was consulted on what features they would need in the
intermediate language in order to support SML).  Doesn't SML have
parameterized modules?

Mike
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             reply	other threads:[~2002-07-26  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-26  4:33 Andrew Kennedy [this message]
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2002-07-17  7:31 Michael Vanier
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2002-07-21  7:27   ` Michael Vanier
2002-07-23  9:00 ` Xavier Leroy

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