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From: Peter Frey <pjfrey@sympatico.ca>
To: "Eric Jaeger (ANSSI)" <eric.jaeger@ssi.gouv.fr>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Function returning recursive lists
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:41:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP8611AC5001809B37D0AA12A33F0@phx.gbl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50D59147.3000201@ssi.gouv.fr>

On Sat, 2012-12-22 at 11:53 +0100, Eric Jaeger (ANSSI) wrote: 
> On 21/12/2012 20:55, Peter Frey wrote:
> > It sometimes helps to read read the various libraries.
> > For example, this thing is a variation of Batteries.BatList.Append:
> >
> > module Cycle = struct
> >    type 'a mut_list = { hd: 'a; mutable tl: 'a list }
> >    external inj : 'a mut_list -> 'a list = "%identity"
> >    external jni : 'a list -> 'a mut_list = "%identity"
> As far as I know, the use of "%identity" is a trick which is similar to 
> Obj, telling the compiler to do nothing. You would not be allowed to do 
> that with standard, typed OCaml identity. In this sense, it is not the 
> sort of solution I'm looking for.
> 
>    Regards, Eric

For what it's  worth: Obj.ml, contains the line:
...
external magic : 'a -> 'b = "%identity"
...
That type allows anything, including 'unifying' any two types.
(The compiler does not do nothing: it assigns the argument of type 'a to
be the result which is of type 'b and is perfectly willing to produce
code that instantly causes a segmentation fault)

inj and its inverse jni seem to have a type at least a bit more friendly
since they control the usage of the individual fields.
As long as you trust Ocaml lists to always have the layout above, this
seems a lot saver to me than type 'a -> 'b.

You wanted, in effect, something like:
# let rec l = [1;2;3;l];;
Error: This expression has type int list
       but an expression was expected of type int

The type 'a list is built into the system; it is not recursive and if
there was a way to force it to be so (without hacks), the type system
would not be sound.

You know the following, of course:

# type 'a aRec = {mutable hd: 'a; mutable tl:'a aRec};;
type 'a aRec = { mutable hd : 'a; mutable tl : 'a aRec; }

# let rec a = {hd=1; tl=a};;           
val a : int aRec =
  {hd = 1;
   tl =
    {hd = 1;
     tl =
      {hd = 1;
       tl =
        {hd = 1;
         tl =

The problem with docycle is not its coding style but that it produces in
fact a cyclic list, which is not very useful: Almost all functions, such
as List.rev are undefined. 


Peter





  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-28  1:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-18  8:37 Eric Jaeger
2012-12-21 19:55 ` Peter Frey
2012-12-22 18:10   ` Philippe Wang
     [not found]   ` <50D59147.3000201@ssi.gouv.fr>
2012-12-28  1:41     ` Peter Frey [this message]
2012-12-28  9:37       ` Arkady Andrukonis
2012-12-28 12:21         ` Philippe Wang
2012-12-28 12:30       ` Philippe Wang
2012-12-28 15:22         ` Didier Cassirame
2013-01-04  0:45           ` Francois Berenger
     [not found] <50d02b72.7155c20a.1dbf.4e2fSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2012-12-18  9:35 ` Gabriel Scherer
     [not found] <50d02b65.6c4cb40a.66ab.4256SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2012-12-18 11:21 ` Julien Blond
2012-12-18 13:13   ` Eric Jaeger
     [not found]   ` <50d06c18.0f5cc20a.16d8.ffff8b8cSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2012-12-19 16:45     ` Lukasz Stafiniak
     [not found] <50d02b62.827bc20a.6f6e.65b8SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2012-12-19 22:23 ` Philippe Wang
2012-12-19 23:50   ` Jeremy Yallop
2012-12-20 15:24     ` Ashish Agarwal

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