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From: Yaron Minsky <yminsky@janestreet.com>
To: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rich@annexia.org>,
	octachron <octa@polychoron.fr>,
	"caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>,
	hugo heuzard <hugo.heuzard@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] What if exn was not an open type?
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 16:48:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACLX4jQ5hxfhJgzLPkJCpKVpqCPubX0N=+qcbHLH3CV=fkhMjA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPFanBGv-YkSVdeaOy-wqGYFSOuo4X3J0ACeX3jP6mk580ydjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, this is a general problem with exception-catching idioms. We
rand into effectively the same issue with respect to the Base's Map
and Set implementations, which are rather slow on JavaScript. We
haven't rewritten those to a more efficient style yet, though.

y

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Gabriel Scherer
<gabriel.scherer@gmail.com> wrote:
> We also have return-by-local-exceptions in Batteries (the BatReturn
> module), but reports from js_of_ocaml users (namely, Clément
> Pit-Claudel) is that this style gets translated to extremely slow
> Javascript code -- functions from Batteries using this style (string
> search functions in particular) were a performance bottleneck on the
> javascript backend. I fixed the issue by rewriting all uses of
> BatReturn in Batteries libraries themselves.
> Long-term, it would be better to have Javascript backends produce
> better code on this, but I think it is rather difficult -- it is easy
> to compile efficiently local exceptions that are raised in the same
> basic block, but with_return takes a callback so you have to both
> inline and specialize before you are within reach of the optimization.
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Yaron Minsky <yminsky@janestreet.com> wrote:
>> FWIW, this idiom is supported by Base.
>>
>> https://github.com/janestreet/base/blob/master/src/with_return.mli
>>
>> I notice we're not yet using the unboxed attribute, though, so we
>> should fix that...
>>
>> y
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rich@annexia.org> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 08:16:17PM +0100, octachron wrote:
>>>> On 04/11/2017 19:44, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>>> > The problem is that the return statement could be called from many
>>>> > contexts, all with different types.  The compiler expects to unify all
>>>> > these types (as the same type 'b) which is not possible.
>>>> This issue can be solved by making the type of return more precise,
>>>> capturing the fact that return always raises:
>>>>
>>>>     type 'a return = { return: 'b. 'a -> 'b } [@@unboxed]
>>>>     let with_return (type b) f =
>>>>       let exception Return of b in
>>>>       try f {return = (fun y -> raise (Return y))} with Return y -> y;;
>>>>
>>>> It becomes then possible to write
>>>>
>>>>     let f () =
>>>>       with_return (fun {return} ->
>>>>         if false then return "error";
>>>>         let a =
>>>>           match Some "abc" with
>>>>           | None -> return "another error"
>>>>           | Some a -> a in
>>>>         a
>>>>     )
>>>
>>> This one works great, thanks.
>>>
>>> Rich.
>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-05 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-20  9:56 Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-20 10:55 ` David Allsopp
2017-10-20 11:21   ` Ivan Gotovchits
2017-10-20 11:38     ` Simon Cruanes
2017-10-20 16:54       ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-20 19:47         ` Simon Cruanes
2017-10-21 21:15           ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-24 13:30       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-10-24 19:02         ` Petter A. Urkedal
2017-11-04 18:44           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-11-04 18:48             ` SP
2017-11-04 18:53               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-11-04 19:03                 ` SP
2017-11-04 19:01             ` Max Mouratov
2017-11-04 19:16             ` octachron
2017-11-05 17:41               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-11-05 18:39                 ` Yaron Minsky
2017-11-05 20:49                   ` Gabriel Scherer
2017-11-05 21:48                     ` Yaron Minsky [this message]
2017-11-05 21:53                     ` Petter A. Urkedal
2017-11-05 18:02             ` Petter A. Urkedal
2017-11-05 18:24               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-11-05 18:55                 ` Petter A. Urkedal
     [not found]         ` <CALa9pHQ-nhWf4T0U5gDiKTduPiEeXSZPQ=DY6N1YNbCXqRohPQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-10-25  8:35           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-10-25  9:12             ` Philippe Veber
2017-10-25 14:52               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-10-25 16:37                 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2017-10-25 17:47                   ` SP
2017-10-26  8:06                 ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-26  8:11                   ` Xavier Leroy
2017-10-25 13:36             ` Ivan Gotovchits
2017-10-26  7:31             ` Petter A. Urkedal
2017-10-27 13:58             ` Oleg
2017-10-27 14:24               ` Philippe Veber
2017-10-27 14:49                 ` Leo White
2017-11-01  7:16                 ` Oleg
2017-11-04 17:52                   ` Philippe Veber
2017-10-20 17:07   ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-21 21:28 ` Nathan Moreau
2017-10-22 12:39   ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-10-22 13:08     ` Nathan Moreau
2017-10-24 11:11     ` SP
2017-10-24 11:16       ` Gabriel Scherer
2017-10-25 11:30         ` Malcolm Matalka

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