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From: Yaron Minsky <yminsky@janestreet.com>
To: Lukasz Stafiniak <lukstafi@gmail.com>
Cc: "caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Use of OCaml in universities and engineering schools
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:00:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACLX4jQj69VwZ0wyw8fTsLmcpqKJw4WfUybVZdCDZDbApCXk2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJMfKEWryHF-1SRQj0E_s-WTjPEPpzxdPpN=z8+hTT3sKu0Qpg@mail.gmail.com>

I know of few places in the US that teach Haskell in the intro
sequence.  The main concern, I think, is that teaching imperative
programming in Haskell requires too much sophistication.

That said, I think there are a decent number of places in Europe that
do teach Haskell in the intro sequence, so YMMV.

My sense is that in the US, ML has quite a good spot relative to other
languages when it comes to University teaching.  The primary languages
people teach with in elite US institutions are, I think:

- Java
- Python
- C
- OCaml/SML
- Scheme

With Java and Python having the lion's share.  C and OCaml/SML are
most often taught as part of the "advanced" intro class.

I think this is a real opportunity for OCaml.  If we can make OCaml
much easier to use for newbies who want to do something outside of
class, I think it's a real chance to reach a wider audience.  OPAM
gets us a chunk of the way, but there's more work to do beyond that.

y

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Lukasz Stafiniak <lukstafi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Evolution isn't about how much you achieve but about how well you compete.
> How do we stand in relation to Haskell in education? Or is your worry solely
> about giving ground to Python?
>

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-18 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-15 16:49 Nicolas Barnier
2013-03-15 17:56 ` Yaron Minsky
2013-03-15 18:04   ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2013-03-15 18:24     ` Bertrand Bonnefoy-Claudet
2013-03-15 18:35       ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2013-03-15 20:12     ` Ashish Agarwal
2013-03-16  1:02       ` Philippe Wang
2013-03-16  1:15         ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2013-03-16  5:20           ` Bertrand Bonnefoy-Claudet
2013-03-15 20:53 ` Marek Kubica
2013-03-16  5:26 ` Jason Yeo
2013-03-16  5:34   ` Valentin ROBERT
2013-03-16  8:37     ` Dagnat Fabien
2013-03-16 15:26     ` Milan Stanojević
2013-03-17 15:58 ` Alan Schmitt
2013-03-17 21:07 ` Kristopher Micinski
2013-03-17 21:29   ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2013-03-18 14:00     ` Yaron Minsky [this message]
2013-03-18 14:07       ` Simon Cruanes
2013-03-18 15:47         ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-03-19  5:43       ` D. LoBraico
2013-03-18  8:20   ` Marc Pantel
2013-03-18  9:52     ` Christophe Garion
2013-03-18 10:16       ` Sebastien Ferre
2013-03-26 10:21         ` Nicolas Braud-Santoni
2013-03-19  7:35 ` Simão Sousa
2013-03-22 14:52 ` Luca Saiu
2013-03-17 16:22 Mark Raymond

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