From: Rudi Grinberg <rudi.grinberg@gmail.com>
To: Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org>
Cc: Paolo Donadeo <p.donadeo@gmail.com>,
OCaml mailing list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:01:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADU9VHuVb07pXpap-jR-CKr-XLA1FoqDT_Jo6ix+UFHH2ONTPw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130911185750.GE3764@notk.org>
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Also, it doesn't help that the GTK devs don't mind breaking themes every
release.
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/a-linux-conspiracy-theory
(Apologies in advance for the slightly inflammatory nature of that article)
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Paolo Donadeo wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Adrien Nader <adrien@notk.org> wrote:
> > > I'm trying to get a list of things that people find bad in (labl)gtk.
> > > Would you be able to put clear words on what you dislike?
> >
> > Very simple. Each and every time I open the GTK API reference [1] I
> > feel like being catapulted in a distopian world, where nothing is
> > clear. Compare with the documentation of QT.
>
> It's a bit strange. Each and every time I've been feeling the same but
> with Qt and GTK swapped. Only proves that people are different though.
> (and makes me wonder what is the fundamental difference)
>
> > Second, I notice that there isn't a single GTK program with a decent
> > GUI, from the look and feel point of view. I use GTK programs everyday
> > (as a Linux user) but this doesn't mean I don't consider it
> > essentially... ugly. Compare with the average GUIs of an average OSX
> > application, but even Windows is probably better and more refined.
> >
> > It's *NOT* a problem with LablGTK, but with GTK itself.
>
> As Kakadu mentionned, I believe it's mostly a matter of themes.
> Unfortunately they tend to not evolve much.
>
> That said, visually appealing themes are much easier to write with a DSL
> and that's pretty much Edje (EFL) and QtQuick. It's both simpler and
> more powerful.
> Hopefully, these are getting more widespread (yay, people discover DSLs
> again!).
>
> > [1] for example: http://www.gtk.org/api/2.6/gtk/gtk-General.html
> (I found that it mostly matched what I'd like for a fairly low-level
> documentation =/ )
>
> --
> Adrien Nader
>
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-10 21:09 Gour
2013-09-10 21:38 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 5:24 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 7:21 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 8:21 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 8:14 ` Gour
2013-09-11 18:17 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:31 ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:53 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 20:41 ` Gour
2013-09-11 21:01 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 5:44 ` Gour
2013-09-12 6:31 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 5:36 ` Gour
2013-09-12 6:48 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 7:26 ` Gour
2013-09-11 20:06 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 20:48 ` Anthony Tavener
2013-09-11 21:04 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 14:40 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 14:51 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-12 14:57 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2013-09-12 15:04 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-14 3:05 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-14 7:10 ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 11:37 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-15 8:32 ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 23:51 ` Francois¡¡Charles Matthieu¡¡Berenger
2013-09-11 22:17 ` [Caml-list] " Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-12 13:49 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 13:58 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-11 9:49 ` David MENTRE
2013-09-11 10:14 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 15:21 ` David MENTRE
2013-09-12 1:31 ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 18:43 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 18:36 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:34 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 19:45 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 22:06 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12 3:25 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-09-12 6:41 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 11:49 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-11 19:17 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 22:03 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12 8:16 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-11 12:26 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:48 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 13:22 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 13:33 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 14:09 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 19:36 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 19:45 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-12 12:55 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:57 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:01 ` Rudi Grinberg [this message]
2013-09-11 19:15 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 8:10 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 1:00 ` [Caml-list] " Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 5:07 ` rixed
2013-09-11 8:26 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 9:23 ` rixed
2013-09-11 12:54 ` Leo White
2013-09-11 12:59 ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:06 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 8:16 ` Gour
2013-09-11 9:00 ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 19:19 ` Gour
2013-11-17 20:12 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 7:38 ` Gabriel Kerneis
2013-09-11 8:20 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 11:42 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-18 11:42 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-18 12:24 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-20 4:47 ` Gour
2013-09-19 8:11 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-19 8:30 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-09-19 8:47 ` Andreas Rossberg
2013-09-20 4:51 ` Gour
2013-09-20 12:04 ` Gerd Stolpmann
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