From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by walapai.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id pBFHn0uV030904 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:49:01 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQBAPkx6k7RVde2kGdsb2JhbABDqy0IIgEBAQEJCQ0HFAQhgXIBAQEEEgIsARsdAQMMBgULDS4iAREBBQEcBhMioxQKi2WCa4UMQIhxAgULi3kEiDSMQo12PYQZ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,357,1320620400"; d="scan'208";a="123548278" Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com ([209.85.215.182]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 15 Dec 2011 18:48:55 +0100 Received: by eaaf13 with SMTP id f13so3853853eaa.27 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:48:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WABOUh3wBzGxt2lsPWk/q7VLRAE9AgXWiyheiBV2Ejk=; b=ptPJa3WLvolvtIhuUykwyvQRaVf45XKYCs7K0N75qXAWV5PARWeoUlGvoPTzkWkFko WGt8vlEf4mgriwhNyjbCdrR23BdOgHUmTHYRZ8f/73G0afidgK/8QcQhWfn4pJKbAt6m 4qE5lVl+mdNWEYB9H59gpj+tUZY9PlpWo1P3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.81.141 with SMTP id zy13mr1802868bkb.50.1323971335199; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.226.65 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:48:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:48:55 -0800 Message-ID: From: Martin DeMello To: Andrej Bauer Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Don't forget the user On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Andrej Bauer wrote: > Recent discussions on how to improve the Ocaml-on-windows situation > are very welcome, but I see a lot of tech-speak and little feeling for > the users, who care just about one thing: to have a click & install > distribution of Ocaml that actually works. > > Keep this in mind: 90% of potential Ocaml users are on Windows, and > they never heard of Mingw or Cygwin, and they never used a command > prompt. > > It doesn't matter if the distribution is incomplete. It doesn't matter > what is under the hood. There's another use case for a good OCaml-on-windows - people who want to write once and deploy everywhere. For that, it matters very much if the distribution is incomplete. I agree that a nice, beginner-friendly package would be a plus, though, ideally combined with a lightweight ide that is preconfigured to find the compiler in the same place that the installer puts it. martin