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From: Viet Le <vietlq85@gmail.com>
To: "Frédéric Bour" <frederic.bour@lakaban.net>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Float precision in OCaml
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:45:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG_8+G5EiHmKQTL8BedFaF2SL0tb04ZN4971hnFerNuKLnAraw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45f24f0e-cb29-4d07-7e72-bee1610f1057@lakaban.net>

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Thanks Frederic. I will relax the condition for now as I don't know
practical use for such need yet.

On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 at 12:25, Frédéric Bour <frederic.bour@lakaban.net>
wrote:

> The Doubledouble[1] module from my grenier library implements 106-bit
> precision floating point. See
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-precision_floating-point_format#Double-double_arithmetic
> for more information.
>
> But this is not a serious solution, if you want to preserve json numbers
> then you should represent them more or less literally (up to what you
> consider "worth" preserving), not by encoding them as IEEE 754 double.
>
> [1]:
> https://github.com/let-def/grenier/blob/master/doubledouble/doubledouble.mli
>
> On 01/08/2017 13:18, Nicolás Ojeda Bär wrote:
>
> Dear Viet,
>
> I am not sure this is an issue with OCaml (as you can verify using your
> favourite C compiler).  Rather, I think IEEE 754 double-precision binary
> floating-point numbers can only represent numbers between 10^{-308} and
> 10^308 with full decimal digits precision. Numbers smaller than that can
> only be represented with reduced precision.
>
> Best wishes,
> Nicolas
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Viet Le <vietlq85@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm writing a JSON parser in pure OCaml and have encountered an issue
>> with small float values:
>>
>> 10 zeros in between
>> # 1.00000000001e-312 ;;
>> - : float = 1.00000000001e-312
>>
>> 11 zeros in between
>> # 1.000000000001e-312 ;;
>> - : float = 1.00000000000341e-312
>>
>> # 5e-324 ;;
>> - : float = 4.94065645841e-324
>>
>>
>> I haven't found precise limit, but as a rule of thumb (*not precise*),
>> for a positive float value to keep its precision, it *should* not be
>> smaller than 1.00000000001e-312. To use JSON as precise serializer, it
>> would be necessary to preserve accuracy.
>>
>> I checked https://github.com/ocaml/Zarith and it supports only big int &
>> quotients, not floating point.
>>
>> For values smaller than the limit above, should I just treat as 2 values:
>> (normalized: float, exponent: float), so we will have:
>>
>> 5e-324 -> (5, -324)
>>
>> Comments and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>> Viet
>>
>
>
> --
Kind regards,
Viet

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-01 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-01 10:47 Viet Le
2017-08-01 11:18 ` Nicolás Ojeda Bär
2017-08-01 11:25   ` Frédéric Bour
2017-08-01 11:45     ` Viet Le [this message]
2017-08-01 11:40   ` François Bobot
2017-08-01 11:42   ` Viet Le
2017-08-01 11:48     ` François Bobot
2017-08-01 12:12 ` Daniel Bünzli
2017-08-01 12:56   ` Viet Le
     [not found]   ` <etPan.59807b8a.db32dee.123@AirmailxGenerated.am>
2017-08-01 13:17     ` Daniel Bünzli
2017-08-01 13:57   ` Soegtrop, Michael
2017-08-01 14:07     ` Soegtrop, Michael
2017-08-01 15:48     ` Peter Thiemann
2017-08-01 17:12       ` Soegtrop, Michael
2017-08-02  7:41         ` Peter Thiemann
     [not found]   ` <etPan.5980c173.1234cb4.123@AirmailxGenerated.am>
2017-08-01 18:05     ` Daniel Bünzli
2017-08-02  5:46       ` Viet Le
2017-08-02  8:22       ` Soegtrop, Michael

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