From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06803820A1 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:33:11 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of kakadu.hafanana@gmail.com) identity=pra; client-ip=209.85.192.178; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="kakadu.hafanana@gmail.com"; x-sender="kakadu.hafanana@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: domain of kakadu.hafanana@gmail.com designates 209.85.192.178 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.192.178; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="kakadu.hafanana@gmail.com"; x-sender="kakadu.hafanana@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@mail-pd0-f178.google.com) identity=helo; client-ip=209.85.192.178; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="kakadu.hafanana@gmail.com"; x-sender="postmaster@mail-pd0-f178.google.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgBADhwMFLRVcCym2dsb2JhbABbgz9GDLAUkkyBFAgWDgEBAQEBBgsLCRQogiUBAQQBQAEbEgsBAwELBgULAwoNISEBAREBBQEKBAENBhMJCYddAQMJBgymM4xRgweEJQoZJwMKZIgmAQUMjHAZglUHhB0DiTGFfIZjgWmBL4sQg0oYKYRPNw X-IPAS-Result: AsgBADhwMFLRVcCym2dsb2JhbABbgz9GDLAUkkyBFAgWDgEBAQEBBgsLCRQogiUBAQQBQAEbEgsBAwELBgULAwoNISEBAREBBQEKBAENBhMJCYddAQMJBgymM4xRgweEJQoZJwMKZIgmAQUMjHAZglUHhB0DiTGFfIZjgWmBL4sQg0oYKYRPNw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,884,1371074400"; d="scan'208";a="32439381" Received: from mail-pd0-f178.google.com ([209.85.192.178]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 11 Sep 2013 15:33:09 +0200 Received: by mail-pd0-f178.google.com with SMTP id w10so9118777pde.23 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hQYngQAumNaj6DdD48LADK4hRoRkUm+Iiee8NtIi2sU=; b=rk8wd8GzjLgaICkdrBJ5Ii5v3jjUxVyeWBA0NhfALuUSOndde1Tapa6JKUQzBHU08B HTL5P1j8MNqL8VAzymV+oW8FQ4AlIPVkDUQ7usiw2/Ek9yF63WEUAOEcglZ5JIcNsE2B QY5YYiF+MLGkOsD3/ZBw0gEHcfOmvKW5lsaG83vsbAkyvMM9HE93zUbt0xFF72BhDoqX MA+fpGJZxGvvLldBAkVCNhUgdP88gdPOHWPh5M4aZQJLnOQkMeeXrviHDMyv8LGfYrYI JqzBgDJLA+9HlgCHQ7ureeM9mWO17Mr3HX6h7UZJG803Rs/oFYIT8QvlGaVu1IZFAmud MPAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.202.6 with SMTP id ke6mr1710015pbc.173.1378906388450; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.50.71 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130910230928.2d51cd39@atmarama.noip.me> <20130911052437.GA9514@notk.org> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:33:08 +0400 Message-ID: From: Kakadu To: Paolo Donadeo Cc: OCaml mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options > this doesn't mean I don't consider it essentially... ugly When we have discussed it in IRC, Adrien usually says "GTK doesn't look like ugly, your theme do" :) Kind regards, Kakadu On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Paolo Donadeo wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Adrien Nader wrote: >> I'm trying to get a list of things that people find bad in (labl)gtk. >> Would you be able to put clear words on what you dislike? > > Very simple. Each and every time I open the GTK API reference [1] I > feel like being catapulted in a distopian world, where nothing is > clear. Compare with the documentation of QT. > > Second, I notice that there isn't a single GTK program with a decent > GUI, from the look and feel point of view. I use GTK programs everyday > (as a Linux user) but this doesn't mean I don't consider it > essentially... ugly. Compare with the average GUIs of an average OSX > application, but even Windows is probably better and more refined. > > It's *NOT* a problem with LablGTK, but with GTK itself. > > And of course this is a personal opinion, with no intention to be the "truth". > > > [1] for example: http://www.gtk.org/api/2.6/gtk/gtk-General.html > > -- > Paolo > > -- > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: > https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs