From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D54BA7F72A for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:58:12 +0200 (CEST) IronPort-PHdr: 9a23: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 Authentication-Results: mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; spf=None smtp.pra=Fabrice.Le_fessant@inria.fr; spf=Pass smtp.mailfrom=fabrissimo@gmail.com; spf=None smtp.helo=postmaster@mail-wm0-f52.google.com Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of Fabrice.Le_fessant@inria.fr) identity=pra; client-ip=74.125.82.52; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="fabrissimo@gmail.com"; x-sender="Fabrice.Le_fessant@inria.fr"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: domain of fabrissimo@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=74.125.82.52; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="fabrissimo@gmail.com"; x-sender="fabrissimo@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@mail-wm0-f52.google.com) identity=helo; client-ip=74.125.82.52; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="fabrissimo@gmail.com"; x-sender="postmaster@mail-wm0-f52.google.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0D9AAC+qq1XhjRSfUpehA4NfKdbjEmFB4Ihh0M6EgEBAQEBAQEBEQEBAQgLCwkZL4IyBAETghQBAQQBEhFLCwULCwQHDQ0dAgIiEgEFAQoSBgESCAoIBASHdQMPCA6ic4EyPjKLPItmA4RKAQoBAQEjEIlkgQOHQYJaBYZbDJJVXYVBiHeCOY0KjDWCODGBDw8WAoQnPDKHKwEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0D9AAC+qq1XhjRSfUpehA4NfKdbjEmFB4Ihh0M6EgEBAQEBAQEBEQEBAQgLCwkZL4IyBAETghQBAQQBEhFLCwULCwQHDQ0dAgIiEgEFAQoSBgESCAoIBASHdQMPCA6ic4EyPjKLPItmA4RKAQoBAQEjEIlkgQOHQYJaBYZbDJJVXYVBiHeCOY0KjDWCODGBDw8WAoQnPDKHKwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.28,510,1464645600"; d="scan'208,217";a="229711819" Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com ([74.125.82.52]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-GCM-SHA256; 12 Aug 2016 12:58:12 +0200 Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f65so21305631wmi.0; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 03:58:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KhsUDwaqWFItFtWvamK/FZSDI7lf2C482bOa3hgHNZY=; b=gqf0+6g6Uv6yI94UpfZjmx4DobYXMmn9Q51bONeNDPEBXorz1OXE/raVnM7XoHHHMD AyFYvqqcThnFYenz6rirxs6JBkFv1opmo/ig+gC9A4YpWixxpUI6hEpCPTKQUtE6icon puQIVGvj7SJ/jizRMate6yuKZWo0Xz2wCgO6mEtGJSXh0IBBe64FX9doOysu4Tcn1O5f go5I2B8plH0BVvf7fsVlX1gbGWdnQiAJJy871sIqehYAhgNhPg1oO54lYKiHT1Fz2bcT OmsV5ZHBT3krGOCPyxoB8jHzhBri9ATfKQe7KKCFgzCbdMaHyzfbygA3RQNOEgsXavuF v6og== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvcROBujkuxml+NKp90RoJhk+njR2WZG4kjKzSqdkG5m8uHkCYZIYC5PwDgj394rSJhghCwyRDITGu6kg== X-Received: by 10.28.206.8 with SMTP id e8mr2285074wmg.57.1470999491882; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 03:58:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3F86857B-79DC-4FCE-8727-691C23120C3F@inria.fr> <20160809142412.GA12056@frosties> <1038B4FD-B561-413E-885A-8EAE00AC31FD@inria.fr> <8E48ABE1-F29A-4F24-816A-636F57717335@inria.fr> In-Reply-To: <8E48ABE1-F29A-4F24-816A-636F57717335@inria.fr> From: Fabrice Le Fessant Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 10:58:01 +0000 Message-ID: To: Damien Doligez , David Allsopp Cc: caml users Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c19437e2db5470539ddc207 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml 4.04.0+beta1 --94eb2c19437e2db5470539ddc207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Actually, OPAM is supposed to follow Debian versioning conventions, to the best of my knowledge. However, it does not really matter for compilers, since you always specify the version to create the switch, but it might become a problem in the future, with compilers as packages. I also think that following a "standard" versioning system (such as the Debian one) is a win, for the future, even if it would break compatibility for a short while. Maybe we could decide to switch for the next release (4.05) ? --Fabrice On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:48 PM Damien Doligez wrote: > > > On 2016-08-11, at 18:28, David Allsopp wrote: > > > > Wouldn't it only ever break it for alpha/beta/rc releases, though? Might > that be a price worth paying (next time)? > > Breaking beta releases is a very big deal: a broken beta is a beta that > nobody will test. Moreover, OPAM does not implement the convention you are > suggesting, so it would do more harm than good. > > -- Damien > > > -- > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: > https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs --94eb2c19437e2db5470539ddc207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Actually, OPAM is supposed to follow Debian versioning con= ventions, to the best of my knowledge. However, it does not really matter f= or compilers, since you always specify the version to create the switch, bu= t it might become a problem in the future, with compilers as packages.
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I also think that following a "standard" versionin= g system (such as the Debian one) is a win, for the future, even if it woul= d break compatibility for a short while. Maybe we could decide to switch fo= r the next release (4.05) ?
--Fabrice

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:48 PM Damien D= oligez <damien.doligez@inria.= fr> wrote:

> On 2016-08-11, at 18:28, David Allsopp <dra-news@metastack.com> wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it only ever break it for alpha/beta/rc releases, though?= Might that be a price worth paying (next time)?

Breaking beta releases is a very big deal: a broken beta is a beta that nob= ody will test. Moreover, OPAM does not implement the convention you are sug= gesting, so it would do more harm than good.

-- Damien


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