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boundary="0000000000006b937d057c5cbe32" Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enogh of them? Reply-To: Yawar Amin X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Sequence: 17218 Errors-to: caml-list-owner@inria.fr Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: caml-list-request@inria.fr X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000006b937d057c5cbe32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think there has been a communication gap here, so let me expand: opam is the _intended_ main tool for development of OCaml programs and the related distribution of the OCaml compiler. You are talking about end users consuming OCaml programs, I am talking about developers making them, two different use cases. Yawar On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 7:21 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 04:19:34PM -0500, Yawar Amin wrote: > > Realistically, today, system ocaml compiler + make is a corner case in > > OCaml development/distribution and shouldn't take precedence over a > > standardized developer workflow with opam. > > Actual figures, otherwise I'll have to assume you're talking nonsense. > The system OCaml compiler is by far the way we prefer users to consume > OCaml and programs built by OCaml on Fedora, probably on Debian too. > > Rich. > > -- > Richard Jones > -- Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list https://inbox.ocaml.org/caml-list Forum: https://discuss.ocaml.org/ Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs --0000000000006b937d057c5cbe32 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think there has been a communication gap here, so let me= expand: opam is the _intended_ main tool for development of OCaml programs= and the related distribution of the OCaml compiler. You are talking about = end users consuming OCaml programs, I am talking about developers making th= em, two different use cases.

Yawar

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 7:2= 1 AM Richard W.M. Jones <rich@annexi= a.org> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26= , 2018 at 04:19:34PM -0500, Yawar Amin wrote:
> Realistically, today, system ocaml compiler + make is a corner case in=
> OCaml development/distribution and shouldn't take precedence over = a
> standardized developer workflow with opam.

Actual figures, otherwise I'll have to assume you're talking nonsen= se.
The system OCaml compiler is by far the way we prefer users to consume
OCaml and programs built by OCaml on Fedora, probably on Debian too.

Rich.

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Richard Jones
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