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From: Mark Shinwell <mshinwell@janestreet.com>
To: Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr>
Cc: Yaron Minsky <yminsky@janestreet.com>,
	Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>,
	 Bob Zhang <bobzhang1988@gmail.com>,
	Caml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] improve omake [was One build system to rule them all]
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:58:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM3Ki75No1h6S3iqRPwqR-78HGh4puzhaxHbPEPdL+jgyJ7iig@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54214E1C.4010507@frisch.fr>

On 23 September 2014 11:40, Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr> wrote:
> On 09/19/2014 05:18 PM, Yaron Minsky wrote:
>>
>> - The build itself has limited parallelism because of various
>>    bottlenecks inside omake, like the fact that it computes its md5sums
>>    in a single process.
>
> I think that omake doesn't usually recompute the md5 when the file hasn't
> changed (probably based on the mtime, maybe inode as well), so I'm surprised
> by the claim.  Did you actually confirm that the computation of md5 was one
> of the bottlenecks or is it just an hypothesis?

Without wishing to prolong a discussion about improving omake...

I think the details are hazy now, but as far as we recall: your
statement about avoiding recomputation is correct, but a lot of md5sum
work happened subsequent to each compilation action in serial, within
the omake process.

By no means was this the only problem; another, for example, was a
vast amount of time spent constructing rules for an entire tree even
if only a small portion was being demanded to be built.

(Of course, the worst problem with omake was probably the DSL, which
we found to be wholly unsuitable for large-scale reliable rule
engineering.  Programmability really is key.)

Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-23 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-18 20:14 Bob Zhang
2014-09-18 20:30 ` Aleksey Nogin
2014-09-20 14:59   ` Jun Furuse
2014-09-18 20:34 ` Sébastien Dailly
2014-09-18 21:32 ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-19 12:23 ` Alain Frisch
2014-09-19 12:29   ` Nicolas Boulay
2014-09-19 13:36   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-19 14:00     ` Alain Frisch
2014-09-19 15:18       ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-19 17:18         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-19 17:48           ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-23 10:40         ` Alain Frisch
2014-09-23 10:58           ` Mark Shinwell [this message]
2014-09-23 20:12             ` Alain Frisch
2014-09-24  2:35               ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-22 15:33 Bob Zhang
2014-09-24 13:37 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-24 15:47   ` Alain Frisch

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