[Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel

[Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel

[Sergei Winitzki]

Hello,

I have been looking in vain for the French book by P.Narbel on OCaml
("Programmation fonctionnelle, générique et objet : Une introduction
avec le langage OCaml"). It seems that this book has disappeared from
all online book stores... Does someone have a copy that they will be
willing to send me by mail? (An easy option is to sell it through
Amazon.) Any other suggestions as to how I could get a copy of this
book are welcome.

Best regards,
Sergei

Re: [Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel

[Florent Monnier]

2013/2/2, Sergei Winitzki <winitzki@gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I have been looking in vain for the French book by P.Narbel on OCaml
> ("Programmation fonctionnelle, générique et objet : Une introduction
> avec le langage OCaml"). It seems that this book has disappeared from
> all online book stores... Does someone have a copy that they will be
> willing to send me by mail? (An easy option is to sell it through
> Amazon.) Any other suggestions as to how I could get a copy of this
> book are welcome.
>
> Best regards,
> Sergei

I'll keep mine, I like it so much!
I've even put the four-leaf clover I've found inside it at the first page :)
I recommand you to keep trying, because this book is a good one.

If it's not printed anymore, maybe the author would accept to release
a .pdf under a CC license. Even a CC license with NC and/or ND would
make it enough for people to read it free of charge.

-- 
Best regards,
Florent

Re: [Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel

[Sergei Winitzki]

Hi,

I'll try to write to the author. It is a pity that one of the
fundamental books about OCaml is completely unavailable less than 10
years after publication...

On 2/2/13, Florent Monnier <monnier.florent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2013/2/2, Sergei Winitzki <winitzki@gmail.com>:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been looking in vain for the French book by P.Narbel on OCaml
>> ("Programmation fonctionnelle, générique et objet : Une introduction
>> avec le langage OCaml"). It seems that this book has disappeared from
>> all online book stores... Does someone have a copy that they will be
>> willing to send me by mail? (An easy option is to sell it through
>> Amazon.) Any other suggestions as to how I could get a copy of this
>> book are welcome.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sergei
>
> I'll keep mine, I like it so much!
> I've even put the four-leaf clover I've found inside it at the first page
> :)
> I recommand you to keep trying, because this book is a good one.
>
> If it's not printed anymore, maybe the author would accept to release
> a .pdf under a CC license. Even a CC license with NC and/or ND would
> make it enough for people to read it free of charge.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Florent
>

RE: [Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel

[Jon Harrop]

> If it's not printed anymore, maybe the author would accept to release
> a .pdf under a CC license. Even a CC license with NC and/or ND would
> make it enough for people to read it free of charge.

If the book was published by the mainstream press then the author will have
handed over copyright to the publisher in which case the author's wishes are
irrelevant and republishing it is punishable IP theft. If the author does
still own the copyright, why give it away for free when you could sell it?

Cheers,
Jon.

Re: [Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel

[John Whitington]

Hi,

Jon Harrop wrote:
>> If it's not printed anymore, maybe the author would accept to release
>> a .pdf under a CC license. Even a CC license with NC and/or ND would
>> make it enough for people to read it free of charge.
>
> If the book was published by the mainstream press then the author will have
> handed over copyright to the publisher in which case the author's wishes are
> irrelevant and republishing it is punishable IP theft. If the author does
> still own the copyright, why give it away for free when you could sell it?

Many publishing contracts (including mine with O'Reilly) state that the 
copyright can revert back to the author if the publisher refuses to keep 
the book in print; this might be an option for the author to investigate.

Cheers,

-- 
John Whitington
Director, Coherent Graphics Ltd
http://www.coherentpdf.com/

Re: [Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel

[Roberto Di Cosmo]

To make things precise, no matter what the contract says, in France,
the IP law states clearly that the editor of a book must
make every effort to make it available.

If the book is out of print, the author can very easily recover
his/her rights fully: just send a letter to the editor mentioning the
book's unavailability and requiring the book to be reprinted; in case
the editor does not comply, the editor's right are simply canceled
and the author recovers them. [1]

I did this with my old "Hijacking the world" book, and that's why
it is now available (for free) on my web page.

--
Roberto

[1]
Art. L. 132-17. ... La résiliation a lieu de plein droit lorsque, sur mise en demeure de l'auteur lui impartissant un délai convenable, l'éditeur n'a pas procédé à la publication de l'oeuvre ou, en cas d'épuisement, à sa réédition.
   L'édition est considérée comme épuisée si deux demandes de livraisons d'exemplaires adressées à l'éditeur ne sont pas satisfaites dans les trois mois.

On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 04:56:09PM -0000, Jon Harrop wrote:
> > If it's not printed anymore, maybe the author would accept to release
> > a .pdf under a CC license. Even a CC license with NC and/or ND would
> > make it enough for people to read it free of charge.
> 
> If the book was published by the mainstream press then the author will have
> handed over copyright to the publisher in which case the author's wishes are
> irrelevant and republishing it is punishable IP theft. If the author does
> still own the copyright, why give it away for free when you could sell it?
> 
> Cheers,
> Jon.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel

[Ashish Agarwal]

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If you do figure out how to get this book, please be sure to submit an
update to the ocaml.org/books.html page. Thanks.

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Roberto Di Cosmo <roberto@dicosmo.org>wrote:

> To make things precise, no matter what the contract says, in France,
> the IP law states clearly that the editor of a book must
> make every effort to make it available.
>
> If the book is out of print, the author can very easily recover
> his/her rights fully: just send a letter to the editor mentioning the
> book's unavailability and requiring the book to be reprinted; in case
> the editor does not comply, the editor's right are simply canceled
> and the author recovers them. [1]
>
> I did this with my old "Hijacking the world" book, and that's why
> it is now available (for free) on my web page.
>
> --
> Roberto
>
> [1]
> Art. L. 132-17. ... La résiliation a lieu de plein droit lorsque, sur mise
> en demeure de l'auteur lui impartissant un délai convenable, l'éditeur n'a
> pas procédé à la publication de l'oeuvre ou, en cas d'épuisement, à sa
> réédition.
>    L'édition est considérée comme épuisée si deux demandes de livraisons
> d'exemplaires adressées à l'éditeur ne sont pas satisfaites dans les trois
> mois.
>
> On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 04:56:09PM -0000, Jon Harrop wrote:
> > > If it's not printed anymore, maybe the author would accept to release
> > > a .pdf under a CC license. Even a CC license with NC and/or ND would
> > > make it enough for people to read it free of charge.
> >
> > If the book was published by the mainstream press then the author will
> have
> > handed over copyright to the publisher in which case the author's wishes
> are
> > irrelevant and republishing it is punishable IP theft. If the author does
> > still own the copyright, why give it away for free when you could sell
> it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jon.
> >
> >
> >
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