From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39B9F7EEB4 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:32:03 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of agarwal1975@gmail.com) identity=pra; client-ip=209.85.223.181; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="agarwal1975@gmail.com"; x-sender="agarwal1975@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: domain of agarwal1975@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.181 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.223.181; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="agarwal1975@gmail.com"; x-sender="agarwal1975@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@mail-ie0-f181.google.com) identity=helo; client-ip=209.85.223.181; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="agarwal1975@gmail.com"; x-sender="postmaster@mail-ie0-f181.google.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkCAA7GD1HRVd+1m2dsb2JhbABFg3eoWolHAYkZCBYOAQEBAQEICQsJFCeCHwEBBAEMNAEUBxILAQMBCwYFCw0NISIBEQEFAQoSBhMJCYdsAQMJBgcFnXyMNIJ7hAUKGScDClmIdwEFDI0ehCgDiGaNOYEdiiWDLhYphDyBSAQFFw X-IPAS-Result: AgkCAA7GD1HRVd+1m2dsb2JhbABFg3eoWolHAYkZCBYOAQEBAQEICQsJFCeCHwEBBAEMNAEUBxILAQMBCwYFCw0NISIBEQEFAQoSBhMJCYdsAQMJBgcFnXyMNIJ7hAUKGScDClmIdwEFDI0ehCgDiGaNOYEdiiWDLhYphDyBSAQFFw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,600,1355094000"; d="scan'208";a="1302257" Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com ([209.85.223.181]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 04 Feb 2013 15:32:02 +0100 Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 17so5721155iea.26 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 06:32:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=P9a3HkutQovPLNC3JYbcKKkGOOXSKmftsvb/n4OqNhY=; b=mXzaYPaU8sK9t25iVa6mbZTIkVN/d50CpB36+lE0NEPZwmKFNOvAr6s0sIAZr2WHBN JnWGmz49fHbgtLDNtP6GY5APfroCKoG8E9yTKg1lu6ehj7FDyOnSBbKN+0wEq5Gpo+GE eIuhrO/DRqm+pFToYN95g7scDc9CzzSOevrtAhJUpxL/AE8uqSWtY9NBWjq0FH3bjb6I mh7z7AMuqjAbiSpkWJhEddoVpeLMOBTFyOtBkkYcGty47oCFnSKBjr358ohmPLOqx3R9 6N7gjwhX69scs252e9kQ50/RgK8vjeHgdKwOP70iNS4C3Pen76VC+5PAO6wUaWTteUdq WxwQ== X-Received: by 10.50.151.225 with SMTP id ut1mr6737791igb.110.1359988320706; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 06:32:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.47.229 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 06:31:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130203180424.GA11926@voyager> References: <018801ce022f$5e1f2160$1a5d6420$@ffconsultancy.com> <20130203180424.GA11926@voyager> From: Ashish Agarwal Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 09:31:40 -0500 Message-ID: To: Roberto Di Cosmo Cc: Jon Harrop , Sergei Winitzki , Florent Monnier , caml-list@inria.fr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3b9fc9c1220104d4e6f4ae Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Looking for the book by Narbel --e89a8f3b9fc9c1220104d4e6f4ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you do figure out how to get this book, please be sure to submit an update to the ocaml.org/books.html page. Thanks. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Roberto Di Cosmo wrote: > To make things precise, no matter what the contract says, in France, > the IP law states clearly that the editor of a book must > make every effort to make it available. > > If the book is out of print, the author can very easily recover > his/her rights fully: just send a letter to the editor mentioning the > book's unavailability and requiring the book to be reprinted; in case > the editor does not comply, the editor's right are simply canceled > and the author recovers them. [1] > > I did this with my old "Hijacking the world" book, and that's why > it is now available (for free) on my web page. > > -- > Roberto > > [1] > Art. L. 132-17. ... La r=E9siliation a lieu de plein droit lorsque, sur m= ise > en demeure de l'auteur lui impartissant un d=E9lai convenable, l'=E9diteu= r n'a > pas proc=E9d=E9 =E0 la publication de l'oeuvre ou, en cas d'=E9puisement,= =E0 sa > r=E9=E9dition. > L'=E9dition est consid=E9r=E9e comme =E9puis=E9e si deux demandes de l= ivraisons > d'exemplaires adress=E9es =E0 l'=E9diteur ne sont pas satisfaites dans le= s trois > mois. > > On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 04:56:09PM -0000, Jon Harrop wrote: > > > If it's not printed anymore, maybe the author would accept to release > > > a .pdf under a CC license. Even a CC license with NC and/or ND would > > > make it enough for people to read it free of charge. > > > > If the book was published by the mainstream press then the author will > have > > handed over copyright to the publisher in which case the author's wishes > are > > irrelevant and republishing it is punishable IP theft. If the author do= es > > still own the copyright, why give it away for free when you could sell > it? > > > > Cheers, > > Jon. > > > > > > > > -- > > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: > > https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list > > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs > > -- > Roberto Di Cosmo > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Professeur En delegation a l'INRIA > PPS E-mail: roberto@dicosmo.org > Universite Paris Diderot WWW : http://www.dicosmo.org > Case 7014 Tel : ++33-(0)1-57 27 92 20 > 5, Rue Thomas Mann > F-75205 Paris Cedex 13 Identica: http://identi.ca/rdicosmo > FRANCE. 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On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:04= PM, Roberto Di Cosmo <roberto@dicosmo.org> wrote:
To make things precise, no matter what the c= ontract says, in France,
the IP law states clearly that the editor of a book must
make every effort to make it available.

If the book is out of print, the author can very easily recover
his/her rights fully: just send a letter to the editor mentioning the
book's unavailability and requiring the book to be reprinted; in case the editor does not comply, the editor's right are simply canceled
and the author recovers them. [1]

I did this with my old "Hijacking the world" book, and that's= why
it is now available (for free) on my web page.

--
Roberto

[1]
Art. L. 132-17. ... La r=E9siliation a lieu de plein droit lorsque, sur mis= e en demeure de l'auteur lui impartissant un d=E9lai convenable, l'= =E9diteur n'a pas proc=E9d=E9 =E0 la publication de l'oeuvre ou, en= cas d'=E9puisement, =E0 sa r=E9=E9dition.
=A0 =A0L'=E9dition est consid=E9r=E9e comme =E9puis=E9e si deux demande= s de livraisons d'exemplaires adress=E9es =E0 l'=E9diteur ne sont p= as satisfaites dans les trois mois.

On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 04:56:09PM -0000, Jon Harrop wrote:
> > If it's not printed anymore, maybe the author would accept to= release
> > a .pdf under a CC license. Even a CC license with NC and/or ND wo= uld
> > make it enough for people to read it free of charge.
>
> If the book was published by the mainstream press then the author will= have
> handed over copyright to the publisher in which case the author's = wishes are
> irrelevant and republishing it is punishable IP theft. If the author d= oes
> still own the copyright, why give it away for free when you could sell= it?
>
> Cheers,
> Jon.
>
>
>
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