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From: Yotam Barnoy <yotambarnoy@gmail.com>
To: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
Cc: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>,
	Ocaml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] How much optimized is the 'a option type ?
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:43:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN6ygOmzQzkd28xGywc5pM0wNfAaHCR6o6vC6KqEZXULKGT_MA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN6ygO=YLesg_jX5UF=dQAS3n2th=8ELhFMYffmnSwPAB7DoNA@mail.gmail.com>

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BTW there's a compromise with unboxing that also has benefits, which is
embedding. An [@embed] annotation could turn an array into an embedding
array, for example. This would mean that an array would have boxed members
within it ie. not accessible via pointers. The advantages are better cache
performance and that the GC could be instructed when the array is
completely flat ie. an embedded array without any pointers could be skipped
by the GC in the mark phase. It would have full polymorphism capability.

The down side is that deallocating the array without deallocating the
embedded structure would be tricky. When deallocating, you have to check
every member to see if it should be deallocated as well. If not, you copy
the member (minor heap) or reallocate the member where it is in memory
(major heap).

Yotam


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Yotam Barnoy <yotambarnoy@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
>
>> Yotam wrote:
>> > Of course, once you unbox, all parametric polymorphism is lost
>>
>> Is it?
>>
>>
> It is in haskell. In general, I don't think you can do any parametric
> polymorphism without metadata.
>
>
>> You would have to box the tuple before passing it to a polymorphic
>> function
>> with the type 'a -> 'a. However, if the function has the type 'a * 'b ->
>> 'b
>> * 'a then you could always unbox, right?
>>
>>
> I don't think so. Without metadata, how do you know where one tuple member
> ends and another begins?
>
> Yotam
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-30 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-17  7:35 Damien Guichard
2014-01-17  7:55 ` David House
2014-01-17  8:16   ` Julien Blond
2014-01-17  8:40     ` David House
2014-01-17  9:10       ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-17  9:22         ` Simon Cruanes
2014-01-17 17:57           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-01-18  1:35             ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-19  6:19               ` oleg
2014-01-21  1:51                 ` Francois Berenger
2014-01-18  1:01         ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-24 10:06         ` Alain Frisch
2014-01-24 10:16           ` Alain Frisch
2014-01-24 13:32             ` Yaron Minsky
     [not found]       ` <CAK=fH+jfi=GsMYBZzmuo=V5UAWimyxiiamY2+DkLg6F0i8XHGw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-01-17  9:11         ` David House
2014-01-17 11:23           ` Jonathan Kimmitt
2014-01-17 13:46             ` Nicolas Braud-Santoni
2014-01-17 13:56               ` Frédéric Bour
2014-01-17 14:02               ` Yaron Minsky
2014-01-17 14:09                 ` Simon Cruanes
2014-01-17 22:52                   ` Yaron Minsky
2014-01-18  1:37                   ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-17 14:24                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-17 22:29                   ` Yaron Minsky
2014-01-18  1:27                 ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-18  1:18             ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-20 10:16             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-20 11:23               ` Jonathan Kimmitt
2014-01-21  2:05                 ` Francois Berenger
2014-01-22 21:22                   ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-22 21:26               ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-23  9:29                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-23 23:20                   ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-23 23:28                     ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-24  8:22                       ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-24  8:34                         ` Andreas Rossberg
2014-01-24 16:56                           ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-27 15:29                             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-27 16:18                               ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-29  7:56                                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-29  8:32                                 ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-29 16:11                                   ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-30 18:43                                     ` Yotam Barnoy [this message]
2014-02-01 15:58                                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-30 21:31                                     ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-30 21:43                                       ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-31  8:26                                         ` Jon Harrop
2014-02-01 15:40                                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-27 10:03                         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-17 14:36 ` Markus Mottl
2014-01-17 15:49   ` Yotam Barnoy
2014-01-17 16:22     ` Markus Mottl
2014-01-20 10:09   ` Goswin von Brederlow

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