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From: Bob Zhang <bobzhang1988@gmail.com>
To: caml-list-request@inria.fr
Cc: Caml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: [Caml-list] improve omake [was One build system to rule them all]
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:14:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANcqPu7vkkDKM8kU9hSen6xZACsvOQ3EPaPBXRQmF4XBvPT+Vw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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Dear camlers,
   I have done some work to  improve omake available here:
https://github.com/bobzhang/omake-fork/tree/work
   Before deciding spending some time in improving omake, I have tried
various build systems.
  1. ocamlbuild
      ocamlbuild is really nice for small to medium projects and I have
used it pervasively in my personal projects and corporation projects. It
works pretty well in most cases.
     There are mainly three drawbacks:
      a. Easy things hard to do.
          Even for some very trivial things, if you don't write
myocamlbuild.m for a long time, you have to google ocamlbuild API and
figure it out how to do it correctly.
     b. Error messages hard to understand
         It's cool that ocamlbuild detect dependencies dynamically, when it
does not work out, in general, I would turn on -verbose and search which
part goes wrong.
     c. no parallellism
        This is fatal and main reason that I gave it up
   2. ocp-build
      I tried it for my hobby project, it's not close to maturity yet.
   3. jenga
      Jenga looks promising, but I don't think it would be usable inside
our company, the dependency is huge, more importantly, its dependency chain
includes Camlp4 which we can not rely on. Also, looking at the examples, it
is quite verbose even for trivial projects.

   omake has its own drawbacks as well, for example, the language is overly
complex and error message is hard to understand(still better than
ocamlbuild), startup speed is slow, no easy FFI interface to write rules in
OCaml language itself, but that's all we can find a way to fix.

-- 
Regards
-- Hongbo Zhang

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             reply	other threads:[~2014-09-18 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-18 20:14 Bob Zhang [this message]
2014-09-18 20:30 ` Aleksey Nogin
2014-09-20 14:59   ` Jun Furuse
2014-09-18 20:34 ` Sébastien Dailly
2014-09-18 21:32 ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-19 12:23 ` Alain Frisch
2014-09-19 12:29   ` Nicolas Boulay
2014-09-19 13:36   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-19 14:00     ` Alain Frisch
2014-09-19 15:18       ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-19 17:18         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-19 17:48           ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-23 10:40         ` Alain Frisch
2014-09-23 10:58           ` Mark Shinwell
2014-09-23 20:12             ` Alain Frisch
2014-09-24  2:35               ` Yaron Minsky
2014-09-22 15:33 Bob Zhang
2014-09-24 13:37 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-09-24 15:47   ` Alain Frisch

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