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From: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
To: Roberto Di Cosmo <roberto@dicosmo.org>
Cc: Leo White <leo@lpw25.net>, caml users <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: [Caml-list] Justifying a breaking 4.03 change, strong dependency on modules with "external" declarations (was: )
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 21:09:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPFanBE=tev6FqmmVa10fhtNQPPjcU1oUvySjLrsrHmB8nUbZw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

As Roberto Di Cosmo points out in the thread "parmap package broken in
opam switch 4.03.0", using an "external" declaration provided by a
module A now counts as a dependency on A -- in particular, A has to be
linked in the final executable.

This breaks some user code (such as Parmap, but I heard reports from
other breakages) in the case where A was used solely to provide such
"external" declarations, for C functions implemented in a C stub that
was linked in the application. In that case it was neither necessary
nor useful to link A, and projects did not do it. They need to do it
explicitly now, and break at linking-time otherwise.

I realize that users may not understand why this change, which looks
like a regression, happened in 4.03. It is actually a bugfix, see
PR#4166 ( http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=4166 ): if A does
not only provide those external declarations, but also initializes
some state that the C functions rely on (such as exception
declarations), then forgetting to link A may result in a crash at
runtime.

In other words, the pre-4.03 situation could result in some rare cases
of user error in a very subtle, very difficult to understand bug.
Under 4.03, such difficult errors cannot happen anymore, but we have
broken some (edgy but) less uncommon existing patterns in the
transition. On the long term, this is a win (obvious errors are
linking time are better than subtle errors at runtime), but the
transition period is of course painful -- and maybe it could have been
managed better, eg. with a warning instead of an error for the next
version, but this is a lot of work.

## Recovering the justification

In case anyone wonders, here is how I obtained this explanation: the
Changes file ( https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/blob/trunk/Changes )
lists the breaking change as

* PR#4166, PR#6956: force linking when calling external C primitives
(Jacques Garrigue, reports by Markus Mottl and Christophe Troestler)

(Note the bullet point "*" instead of "-", that indicates that this
change may break user programs. If you maintain large or old OCaml
codebases, it is a good idea to review each starred item of the
changelog after each release. If a program breaks after a new release,
looking at the starred items may give indications of what is
happening.)

The first of the two issue reports listed in the Changes is an example
of the subtle bugs that could happen with the pre-4.03 semantics,
reported by Markus Mottle. The second is another instance reported by
Troestler, and contains the discussion around the change and its
implementation, mainly by Jacques Garrigue that did the implementation
work.


On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Roberto Di Cosmo <roberto@dicosmo.org> wrote:
> Indeed, after some more investigation (thanks to Francois Berenger), it
> seems that in 4.03 we can no longer just use a bare .mli file with the
> interface to some external code, as it was possible before.
>
> Now, we need to provide also an .ml file, in any case.
>
> The fix in parmap is underway, and it was a simple matter of moving
> setcore.mli to setcore.ml, without touching anything else.
>
> For the curious, the content of setcore.ml (ex setcore.mli) is the
> following:
>
> (* uses the native affinity interface to
>   declare that the current process should be
>   attached to core number n *)
>
> external numcores: unit -> int = "numcores"
> external setcore: int -> unit = "setcore"
>
> If you have similar patterns in your projects, take due notice :-)
>
> --
> Roberto
>
>
> 2016-04-26 19:16 GMT+02:00 Leo White <leo@lpw25.net>:
>>
>> > It seems that in 4.03 one needs to add the -opaque flag when compiling
>> > such stubs, otherwise things go astray, and it seems ocamlbuild does not
>> > detect automatically such situations, so one needs to explicitly pass
>> > the -opaque option when compiling setcore.mli (and only it).
>>
>> I would not have thought that adding `-opaque` would be sufficient. It
>> should get you
>> past the compilation of modules which depend on `setcore.mli`, but I would
>> expect
>> linking to fail still. If that is not the case I guess it should be
>> considered a bug because
>> in 4.03 referencing an `external` is supposed to force linking of the
>> containing module.
>> The change was made because the existing behaviour was said to confuse
>> people --
>> using a normal value from a module caused it to get linked whilst using an
>> external value
>> didn't.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Leo
>>
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             reply	other threads:[~2016-05-16  1:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-16  1:09 Gabriel Scherer [this message]
2016-05-16  2:21 ` [Caml-list] Justifying a breaking 4.03 change, strong dependency on modules with "external" declarations whitequark
2016-05-16 11:52 [Caml-list] Justifying a breaking 4.03 change, strong dependency on modules with "external" declarations (was: ) Hongbo Zhang (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEX)
2016-05-16 12:38 ` David Allsopp

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