From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@sympa.inria.fr Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CF0A7F0A3 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:33:33 +0200 (CEST) IronPort-PHdr: 9a23:zPwWJBDkaEzNvl3bK5HIUyQJP3N1i/DPJgcQr6AfoPdwSP/7o8bcNUDSrc9gkEXOFd2CrakU16yM7+u4BCQp2tWojjMrSNR0TRgLiMEbzUQLIfWuLgnFFsPsdDEwB89YVVVorDmROElRH9viNRWJ+iXhpQAbFhi3DwdpPOO9QteU1JTrkbrusMWOKyxzxxODIppKZC2sqgvQssREyaBDEY0WjiXzn31TZu5NznlpL1/A1zz158O34YIxu38I46Fp34d6XK77Z6U1S6BDRHRjajhtpZ7djgTYVQaE+lcbV2wXlFIIX1mEv1nGWcLBuzX7u/A1/CSAOty+GYA9RzWv9eFPRQXvmQ8GMSQ4+SfZkJojorhcpUeOrhZlwoPQKLqeNPdkc7mVKdwTT3BAU8IXTCdBD5mxdaMACuMAOaBTqIyr9AhGlge3GQT5XLCn8TRPnHKjmPBj3g== Authentication-Results: mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; spf=None smtp.pra=gabriel.scherer@gmail.com; spf=Pass smtp.mailfrom=gabriel.scherer@gmail.com; spf=None smtp.helo=postmaster@mail-io0-f175.google.com Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of gabriel.scherer@gmail.com) identity=pra; client-ip=209.85.223.175; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="gabriel.scherer@gmail.com"; x-sender="gabriel.scherer@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Pass (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: domain of gabriel.scherer@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.175 as permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.85.223.175; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="gabriel.scherer@gmail.com"; x-sender="gabriel.scherer@gmail.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@mail-io0-f175.google.com) identity=helo; client-ip=209.85.223.175; receiver=mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr; envelope-from="gabriel.scherer@gmail.com"; x-sender="postmaster@mail-io0-f175.google.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DbAQDPhfZVla/fVdFdg0I1aQaDJKdhgU6QcIF4hXkCgScHORMBAQEBAQEBARABAQEBBw0JCR8wgh2CBwEBBBIRHQEbEgsBAwwGBQsNAgIJHQICIQEBEQEFAQoSBhMSEId2AQMSDagcgTA+MYtGgWyCeYlNChknAwpWhBcBAQEBAQEBAwEBAQEBARYBBQ6BFIVRhH2CUIFpVAeCaYFDBYV7DI9QhQ2GBIFtghKRMIVwEiOBFyIBgkQNHIFWPDMBiT2BPwEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0DbAQDPhfZVla/fVdFdg0I1aQaDJKdhgU6QcIF4hXkCgScHORMBAQEBAQEBARABAQEBBw0JCR8wgh2CBwEBBBIRHQEbEgsBAwwGBQsNAgIJHQICIQEBEQEFAQoSBhMSEId2AQMSDagcgTA+MYtGgWyCeYlNChknAwpWhBcBAQEBAQEBAwEBAQEBARYBBQ6BFIVRhH2CUIFpVAeCaYFDBYV7DI9QhQ2GBIFtghKRMIVwEiOBFyIBgkQNHIFWPDMBiT2BPwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,526,1437429600"; d="scan'208";a="177297999" Received: from mail-io0-f175.google.com ([209.85.223.175]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-GCM-SHA256; 14 Sep 2015 10:33:20 +0200 Received: by iofh134 with SMTP id h134so157835924iof.0; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 01:33:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=i/zcc0tMQLJYKyo5Ccx1Jl920RrAqyAMjBArdqhwFsE=; b=QJbJ+E332rOC4mG/9fLYr0B+CCo9ZseeDSE6nYavoquY4+3mQz5Ao0RdSx+KqaQfJA 24LlNww5vNDyw0XXX/vaJwgWHuxVmVBM9a0Kb+ihqA21HwpVrNlTxt0C7QRYbEN1NoXj WuR+AoOebqj21tqEesaYkisPx2+WPn/ZO/PpNoR5JKMjerydQEP8qA2u8euIZpa/qAh1 Z18ilxKVpc2fEJ3KvbOcKq0gGXv4/RRHY3kVd2Ka92Hi6EL3D6914Nrde+BcezO2mKN2 WHF5/d7Ohc3m26L6iAZf7xjbzN9FFQIn6esIUN7QntdhKCPJH/Cyb8oHJ/D7jBOafQfo 7UlA== X-Received: by 10.107.19.70 with SMTP id b67mr20897283ioj.144.1442213247041; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 23:47:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.19.68 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 23:46:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20150911100019.C167F7F1AC@sympa.inria.fr> <55F2B739.9060106@bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de> <55F45DF8.80601@inria.fr> From: Gabriel Scherer Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:46:47 +0200 Message-ID: To: Xavier Leroy Cc: caml users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] google groups list archive Thinking about it a bit more, I think most of my current dissatisfaction with the current archive would go away if it was indexed well-enough by external search engines. Currently a Google search for "site:http://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list llvm systemz" does not return any result, and it could be caused by the fact that https://sympa.inria.fr/robots.txt is User-agent: * Disallow: / which asks web-indexing robots not to visit the website. Would it be possible to change that setting? On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Gabriel Scherer wrote: >> There's always https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list >> (full archives since 09/1992, yeah!) > > This archive is excellent in term of content, but it is an absolute > pain to use as an interface. My workflow to refer someone to a > mailing-list conversation I remember is to search for it in my > mailbox, find the posting date, and then navigate the archive from > this date. > > The search feature in particular is completely unusable. For example I > recently wanted to refer to an old message of mine about the various > LLVM port, written in the thread about SystemZ. I find it absolutely > impossible to find this thread by searching for either LLVM or SystemZ > through the archive interface. > > I have no idea who can tweak the list settings and whether this is > even possible (I somehow doubt that the search ability can be made to > work), but here is a minor change that would already considerably > improve the usability of the archive: > getting rid of the paging of the month's threads > For example, august 2015 mailing-list threads are split between 9 > pages which makes them unnecessarily painful to navigate. > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Xavier Leroy wrote: >> On 12/09/15 18:59, Ashish Agarwal wrote: >>> It was also mentioned that GMANE has a good archive [1], so I'll go ahead >>> and link to that from ocaml.org . >>> [1] https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml.org/issues/699#issuecomment-139484115 >> >> It seems to have the same problem of messages expiring after 2 weeks. >> >> There's always https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list >> (full archives since 09/1992, yeah!) >> >> - Xavier Leroy >> >> >> >> -- >> Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: >> https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list >> Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners >> Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs