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From: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
To: Pierre-Alexandre Voye <ontologiae@gmail.com>
Cc: OCaml mailing list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Some comments on recent discussions
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:18:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPFanBGUMuDwGuVpV_YAmM3N0M+yR7MjS8+6U-9bks3R-3oJ3A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANnJ5GffB5HUtYVpBEsVHFU03vPAZYma-wuZvQWVJA=gbD1Qfw@mail.gmail.com>

> The French book "Le langage Caml" is very great, althought it is quite old,
> and althought examples used in the book (write a pascal compiler, a grep
> tool and so on) is maybe too theoristic for engineer target.
> Maybe a translation would be sufficient ?

( For those interested, the book is available online at
http://caml.inria.fr/pub/distrib/books/llc.pdf )

I have contacted Xavier Leroy and Pierre Weis a few years ago to get
the TeX sources of the book. I didn't intend to translate from French
to English, but only, for a start, from Caml Light to Objective Caml.
Neither of them could find the sources (they must be about twenty
years old and buried in a 300Mio hidden hard disk somewhere), so I
didn't proceed further.

Remark: there have been at least two successful collaborative
translation efforts in the past:
  http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/oreilly-book/
  http://ocamlunix.forge.ocamlcore.org/

I would be ready to participate in such an effort again.
That said, I think the Oreilly book, and Jason Hickey's book draft,
are already good documents (I think "Le langage Caml" would be
significantly better suited to the specific audience of mathematics
undergraduate learning OCaml as their first language, but that's quite
a narrow target).
  http://files.metaprl.org/doc/ocaml-book.pdf

In the context of engineers-friendly OCaml learning document that
could possibly warrant translation, there is also Maxence Guesdon's
"Introduction au langage OCaml". I see it as a well-presented subset
of the Oreilly book, for people that do not need a complete reference
but only a reasonable first taste of the language.
  http://form-ocaml.forge.ocamlcore.org/

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Pierre-Alexandre Voye
<ontologiae@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> 2011/12/7 Paolo Donadeo <p.donadeo@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't say there are no problems, and everything is fine. But if I
>> have do point at a problem, especially for newcomers, I would say that
>> we need a book, an up to date book, written in good English and
>> published by O'Relly.
>
> The French book "Le langage Caml" is very great, althought it is quite old,
> and althought examples used in the book (write a pascal compiler, a grep
> tool and so on) is maybe too theoristic for engineer target.
> Maybe a translation would be sufficient ?
>>
>>
>> But this is a very hard issue to be solved, no GitHub (R) (TM) in help
>> here ;-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Paolo
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-07 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-06 15:24 Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-06 15:31 ` Joel Reymont
2011-12-06 23:03   ` Martin Jambon
2011-12-06 16:01 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2011-12-06 16:03 ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-06 16:56   ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-06 17:12 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-06 17:33 ` Alex Rubinsteyn
2011-12-06 17:53 ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-07  0:18   ` Paolo Donadeo
2011-12-07  1:00     ` oliver
2011-12-07  6:33       ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2011-12-07  1:48     ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-07  9:53       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-07 10:33     ` Pierre-Alexandre Voye
2011-12-07 11:18       ` Gabriel Scherer [this message]
2011-12-07 13:15         ` David MENTRE
2011-12-07 13:48           ` Alan Schmitt
2011-12-07 14:56           ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-07 15:52         ` oliver
2011-12-10 14:58         ` Xavier Leroy
2011-12-08  7:59       ` rixed
2011-12-08 10:37         ` oliver
2011-12-08 13:15         ` [Caml-list] Wanted book (Re: Some comments on recent discussions) Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2011-12-09 21:22           ` oliver
2011-12-09  7:13   ` [Caml-list] Some comments on recent discussions Martin Jambon
2011-12-10 20:32 ` Andrei Formiga
2011-12-10 21:01   ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 21:12     ` rixed
2011-12-10 21:24       ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 21:49         ` rixed
2011-12-10 22:45           ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 23:58       ` Hans Ole Rafaelsen
2011-12-11 10:25       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-11 10:06   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-13 17:41   ` oliver
2011-12-13  5:54 ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  7:15   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-13  8:21     ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  8:51       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-13  9:15         ` Gaius Hammond
2011-12-13 14:08           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14  5:28           ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-13  9:51         ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  9:53         ` Adrien
2011-12-13 20:52           ` Jon Harrop
2011-12-14  6:03           ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14  9:34             ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-14 10:24               ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14 13:37                 ` Adrien
2011-12-14 14:24                   ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-14 15:27                   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 15:46                     ` Gaius Hammond
2011-12-14 15:49                     ` Adrien
2011-12-14 16:42                       ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-14 17:04                       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-15 21:38                         ` Adrien
2011-12-14 16:55                   ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14 21:35                     ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-15 11:14                     ` Adrien
2011-12-14 12:52             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 13:25               ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-14 17:27               ` Aleksey Nogin
2011-12-14 17:36                 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 19:41                   ` David Allsopp
2011-12-15 10:29                     ` Adrien
2011-12-15 17:41                       ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 20:47                         ` Adrien
2011-12-15 21:20                           ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 11:25                     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 12:39                   ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-16 12:44                     ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-16 13:14                     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 14:11                       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-16 14:50                         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 13:58                     ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-16 17:29                     ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-14 18:41                 ` Dmitry Grebeniuk
2011-12-14 23:54               ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 10:03                 ` Adrien

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