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(was: how to encourage adoption of OCaml?) --001a114216285fd50205373a3050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Arma=C3=ABl: Discourse looks like an interesting option. If we tried to set= up a Discourse instance for OCaml, would you be willing to act as a moderator there? The Rust people have experience with Discourse as their main user forum (I just created a topic ( https://users.rust-lang.org/t/what-are-rusts-discourse-hosting-plans-and-ti= me-requirement/6462 ) to ask about the specifics of their hosting plan), and closer to home the Unikernel community also adopted discourse: github issue about the move: https://github.com/Unikernel-Systems/unikernel.org/issues/25 Discourse forum: https://devel.unikernel.org/ (I'm adding Amir Chaudhry, who organized the Unikernel, transition, to the loop. He had excellent feedback when the ocamlbuild community asked similar questions -- https://github.com/ocaml/ocamlbuild/issues/31 ) I would be ready to finance a six-month experiment of using Discourse for the OCaml community, to see what it gives, but I'm not interested in doing the setting-up and other administration work myself, so we would need to have volunteers for that. On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Arma=C3=ABl Gu=C3=A9neau wrote: > Le 09/07/2016 =C3=A0 00:18, Fabrice Le Fessant a =C3=A9crit : > > I have no time to go on IRC, so I don't really care about it, but I > think that > we miss something in the middle between mailing-lists and IR= C, > which is a > forum that would be hosted on ocaml.org (ocaml.org/forum ?). > I used to go on > some BB forums at some point, I am pretty sure we could > use something like > that, or one of its more recent clones (but not a > proprietary website). Such > forums are quite practical, as you can both > monitor them to answer questions > immediately (=C3=A0 la IRC) without fi= lling > your inbox, and still be able to come > from time to time and look at > former discussions. > > If there has to be something other than IRC and the mailing list, I > personnally > quite like the idea of a forum. The *BB things sure have an old-school > look&feel, but discourse [1] looks nice, for example, and I think the rust > people use it for their user forum [2] (and it is free software). > > I personnaly would be happy to help newcomers on such a forum. I'm also > not so > fond of IRC-like mediums: the density of useful and actual content is > usually > quite low (because of the informal aspect of the discussions), and not > structured or easily searchable. It's not because you have access to the > 500k+ > lines of backlog that the informations there are actually usable. > > =E2=80=94 Arma=C3=ABl > > [1]: https://www.discourse.org/ > [2]: https://users.rust-lang.org/ > --001a114216285fd50205373a3050 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Arma=C3=ABl: Discourse looks like an interesting= option. If we tried to setup a Discourse instance for OCaml, would you be = willing to act as a moderator there?

The Rust people have expe= rience with Discourse as their main user forum (I just created a topic ( https://users.rust-lang.org/t/what-are-rusts-= discourse-hosting-plans-and-time-requirement/6462 ) to ask about the sp= ecifics of their hosting plan), and closer to home the Unikernel community = also adopted discourse:
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 github issue about the m= ove:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://github.com/Unikernel-Systems/unikernel.org= /issues/25

=C2=A0 Discourse forum:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://devel.unik= ernel.org/
=C2=A0
(I'm addi= ng Amir Chaudhry, who organized the Unikernel, transition, to the loop. He = had excellent feedback when the ocamlbuild community asked similar question= s -- https://gith= ub.com/ocaml/ocamlbuild/issues/31 )

I would be ready to finance a six-month experiment of using Discourse = for the OCaml community, to see what it gives, but I'm not interested i= n doing the setting-up and other administration work myself, so we would ne= ed to have volunteers for that.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Arma=C3=ABl Gu=C3= =A9neau <armael.gueneau@ens-lyon.fr> wrote:
=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20
Le 09/07/2016 =C3=A0 00:18, Fabrice Le Fessant a =C3=A9crit :
> I have no time to go on IRC, = so I don't really care about it, but I think that > we miss something in the middle between mailing-lists and IRC, which i= s a > forum that would be hosted on ocaml.org (= ocaml.org/forum ?). I used to go on > some BB forums at some point, I am pretty sure we could use something = like > that, or one of its more recent clones (but not a proprietary website)= . Such > forums are quite practical, as you can both monitor them to answer que= stions > immediately (=C3=A0 la IRC) without filling your inbox, and still be a= ble to come > from time to time and look at former discussions.

 If there has to be something other than IRC and the mailing list, I personnally
quite like the idea of a forum. The *BB things sure have an old-school
look&feel, but discourse [1] looks nice, for example, and I think the rust
people use it for their user forum [2] (and it is free software).

I personnaly would be happy to help newcomers on such a forum. I'm also not so
fond of IRC-like mediums: the density of useful and actual content is usually
quite low (because of the informal aspect of the discussions), and not
structured or easily searchable. It's not because you have access to the 500k+
lines of backlog that the informations there are actually usable.

=E2=80=94 Arma=C3=ABl

[1]: https://w= ww.discourse.org/
[2]: https:/= /users.rust-lang.org/

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