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From: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
To: David House <dhouse@janestreet.com>
Cc: "Dario Teixeira" <darioteixeira@yahoo.com>,
	"Török Edwin" <edwin+ml-ocaml@etorok.net>,
	"caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] The verdict on "%identity"
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:53:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPFanBHcEKxJB+feaaiSQfEPUiQowzuq13gs2P2Dkn-NqqG=Xg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK=fH+hLkJXqe_A-ux5T4Yu4c2DR3QdY9NK7xLxDJmz7K+6Y+w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:28 PM, David House <dhouse@janestreet.com> wrote:
> If you wanted to investigate this yourself, you could compile with -S
> and look at the generated assembly. For such short functions, this is
> generally not very hard.

Indeed:

cat test.ml
  module type SIG1 = sig type t val of_string: string -> t end
  module type SIG2 = sig type t external of_string: string -> t =
"%identity" end

  module Impl1 = struct type t = string let of_string x = x end
  module Impl2 = struct type t = string external of_string: string ->
t = "%identity" end

  module A: SIG1 = Impl1
  module B: SIG1 = Impl2
(*  module C: SIG2 = Impl1 *)
  module D: SIG2 = Impl2

  let testA = A.of_string "foo"
  let testB = B.of_string "bar"
  let testD = D.of_string "baz"

(I commented C out because it makes no sense to me, semantically, and
it's rejected by the compiler.)

ocamlopt -c -S test.ml
less test.s

The (relevant part of the) result on my machine, that correspond to
compilation of testA, testB, testD:
camlTest__entry:
  [...]
        movl    $camlTest__3, %eax
        movl    %eax, camlTest + 20
        movl    $camlTest__2, %eax
        movl    %eax, camlTest + 24
        movl    $camlTest__1, %eax
        movl    %eax, camlTest + 28
  [...]

All compiled in the same way.

There may be a difference for calls across compilation units: in
absence of the .cmx, no inlining would be performed. My guess would be
that in presence of the .cmx we should get the same final result, but
I must say I don't really care for performances on this front.

Note that there is however an important difference with private
definitions: with private, the cast from t to string is not only
erased by the compiler, it is a *coercion* that can be lifted to casts
to larger datatypes. You can coerce a (list t) into a (list string)
and this is also a no-op in the dynamic semantics. That's much
stronger than what you get from %identity.

(This suggest that, with the explicit subtyping we have in OCaml,
there would be a case for inter-coercible types: a way to define a t
such that for example (t :> string) and (string :> t), but not (t =
string). This doesn't increase the type safety of arbitrary programs
but allow programmers to force abstraction-breaking to be explicit,
with no performance cost in both directions.)

>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Dario Teixeira <darioteixeira@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Wouldn't 'type t = private string' help the compiler optimize this?
>>
>>
>> Possibly, though the semantics would change: what before was
>> an abstract type is now translucent (ie, not quite transparent).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dario
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-20  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19 17:49 Dario Teixeira
2012-11-19 18:02 ` Török Edwin
2012-11-19 18:18   ` Dario Teixeira
2012-11-19 18:28     ` David House
2012-11-20  9:53       ` Gabriel Scherer [this message]
2012-11-20 10:25       ` Pierre Chambart
2012-11-20 16:19         ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-11-20 19:03           ` Vincent HUGOT
2012-11-20 20:43           ` Dario Teixeira

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