From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by walapai.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q04GxaBW012289 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:59:36 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlcBAF+EBE/RVdc2kWdsb2JhbABDggWqWggiAQEBAQkLCwcUBCGBcgEBAQQSAiwBFAcdAQMMBgULAwouIQEBEQEFARwGExQOoEgKi2WCbYRdP4hxAgULjAQEiDiMTIpvgw49hBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,456,1320620400"; d="scan'208";a="137853672" Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com ([209.85.215.54]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 04 Jan 2012 17:59:36 +0100 Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so12319160lah.27 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:59:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hVupXUUlGGSkkxkJ/oLRSiYX+6TfSvyZB8RU4ZsxQfA=; b=tNTOEKglQDTU89mYMhrIJokdh2Dd2i7Dw0c1DydQvKTpnnmNGIojBBIMOVWgLgJgW1 XwL7ED5VX24WVSQLjadfDRK2vJfh8rb0/AWfTxJsY5nHn8bS0fZC05Z45Hs7Xk6D7efc Oh31za1mSdcPchAWQAwb7wVSceEKblk0sewS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.23.35 with SMTP id j3mr71358lbf.100.1325696375040; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.24.228 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 08:59:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:59:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Markus Mottl To: Yaron Minsky Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_B=FCnzli?= , caml-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by walapai.inria.fr id q04GxaBW012289 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] "Let"-less syntax for coreML On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 07:18, Yaron Minsky wrote: > I think the biggest thing the community can do to improve OCaml is not to > tweak around with language design.  It's to improve the library packaging > situation.  Oasis seems to be the effort in this direction that has the most > momentum, so I think pushing Oasis to become every bit as good as Hackage > and Cabal is really the place to get maximum leverage. I would say that Jane Street is in a unique position to make a difference here. Having by far the largest OCaml team in the world, nobody else is as likely to benefit from and to achieve the goal of improving the library packaging situation. Just being able to attract more people to OCaml and hence potential employees would seem well worth the cost of specifically dedicating resources and pushing this project through. It is not very likely that individuals or small companies will be able or willing to support this project in the long term, and the OCaml team/INRIA understandably has other priorities (= research). Regards, Markus -- Markus Mottl        http://www.ocaml.info        markus.mottl@gmail.com