From: Markus Mottl <markus.mottl@gmail.com>
To: Anil Madhavapeddy <anil@recoil.org>
Cc: Thomas Gazagnaire <thomas@ocamlpro.com>,
Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>,
Fabrice Le Fessant <Fabrice.Le_fessant@inria.fr>,
Francois Berenger <berenger@riken.jp>,
Ocaml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] GODI is shutting down
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:04:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_800qYoVUEzkQPgMU2Doj6_u+t22S5jMLT8w6BuZNpGBKvLg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7F8931D5-E65D-49EB-B54D-A50716F3EFDD@recoil.org>
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Anil Madhavapeddy <anil@recoil.org> wrote:
> I think that's fair, but the devil is in the details. The core of OASIS
> is sound, but is hampered by its need to build on top of ocamlfind
> and ocamlbuild, and the ensuing impedance mismatches that follow (e.g.
> manually editing _tags files, and trying to debug which tool a failure
> happens in is an advanced operation). OPAM packages represent an output
> collection of (several optionally built) ocamlfind packages, and
> OASIS sits awkwardly in between these two right now, with ocamlbuild
> crashing the party and getting drunk in the kitchen.
That is indeed an eloquent way of putting it :)
Oasis as a means to standardize package specifications seems important
to me, but I wish the scope of the associated tools had been less
ambitious. The somewhat unsatisfying build system situation certainly
didn't help.
My hope is that OPAM will eventually act as the central hub that ties
all tools together and make them more seamless by enforcing (or at
least strongly supporting) some reasonable packaging and build system
standards.
Regards,
Markus
--
Markus Mottl http://www.ocaml.info markus.mottl@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-24 18:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-22 21:21 Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-22 22:32 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-07-23 6:49 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-23 8:46 ` Keyan
2013-07-23 8:57 ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-23 9:45 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-07-23 13:31 ` Marek Kubica
2013-07-24 9:09 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2013-07-23 9:34 ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-23 10:00 ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2013-07-22 23:44 ` oliver
2013-07-23 0:03 ` Nicolas Braud-Santoni
2013-07-23 1:51 ` Francois Berenger
2013-07-24 9:27 ` [Caml-list] " Andreas Hauptmann
2013-07-23 9:07 ` [Caml-list] " Adrien Nader
2013-07-23 10:01 ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-23 10:22 ` oliver
2013-07-24 1:55 ` Francois Berenger
2013-07-24 7:03 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2013-07-24 8:42 ` Jun Furuse
2013-07-24 10:30 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-25 14:46 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-24 12:36 ` AW: [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-24 14:44 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-24 15:58 ` Markus Mottl
2013-07-24 16:25 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-24 16:36 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-24 16:41 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-07-25 15:21 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-24 16:39 ` AW: [Caml-list] " Markus Mottl
2013-07-24 16:58 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-24 17:06 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-24 17:33 ` Török Edwin
2013-07-24 18:49 ` Markus Mottl
2013-07-25 15:16 ` [Caml-list] Re: AW: " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 15:29 ` Leo White
2013-07-25 15:33 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-24 16:39 ` [Caml-list] " Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-07-24 17:05 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-24 17:56 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-24 18:23 ` Markus Mottl
2013-07-24 20:43 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-25 5:32 ` Adrien Nader
2013-07-25 9:52 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-25 21:01 ` Adrien Nader
2013-07-25 1:32 ` Francois Berenger
2013-07-25 15:10 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 15:23 ` Christopher Zimmermann
2013-07-25 20:03 ` Adrien Nader
2013-07-26 1:14 ` ocamlbuild (was Re: [Caml-list] Re: GODI is shutting down) Francois Berenger
2013-07-26 2:43 ` Peter Groves
2013-07-26 5:02 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-26 5:26 ` [Caml-list] Re: ocamlbuild Francois Berenger
2013-07-26 7:25 ` Wojciech Meyer
2013-07-26 8:07 ` Francois Berenger
2013-07-26 9:24 ` r.3
2013-07-26 10:48 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-26 11:13 ` Wojciech Meyer
2013-07-26 17:29 ` Ashish Agarwal
2013-07-26 5:29 ` ocamlbuild (was Re: [Caml-list] Re: GODI is shutting down) Jeff Meister
2013-07-26 6:14 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-26 13:48 ` Dario Teixeira
2013-07-25 20:18 ` [Caml-list] GODI is shutting down Wojciech Meyer
2013-07-24 18:04 ` Markus Mottl [this message]
2013-07-24 16:18 ` AW: " Matej Kosik
2013-07-24 16:17 ` David Sheets
2013-07-24 16:56 ` Matej Kosik
2013-07-24 17:03 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-25 15:01 ` [Caml-list] Re: AW: " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-24 22:05 ` AW: [Caml-list] " Siraaj Khandkar
2013-07-24 22:06 ` Virgile Prevosto
2013-07-24 22:47 ` Amir Chaudhry
2013-07-24 23:03 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-07-25 5:22 ` Adrien Nader
2013-07-23 9:28 ` [Caml-list] Re: [Godi-list] " Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-23 15:32 ` Pierre-Etienne Meunier
2013-07-23 15:37 ` David Sheets
2013-07-23 15:44 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-23 16:19 ` Pierre-Etienne Meunier
2013-07-23 16:26 ` Ashish Agarwal
2013-07-23 16:32 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-23 16:55 ` Virgile Prevosto
2013-07-28 22:29 ` Wojciech Meyer
2013-07-23 19:38 ` Yaron Minsky
2013-07-23 19:49 ` Pierre-Etienne Meunier
2013-07-23 20:02 ` Yaron Minsky
2013-07-23 22:35 ` [Caml-list] " Mike Lin
2013-07-25 16:10 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 17:42 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-25 18:52 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 18:28 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2013-07-25 19:00 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 19:23 ` Yotam Barnoy
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