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From: Markus Mottl <markus.mottl@gmail.com>
To: Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Immutable strings
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 17:01:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_800rUwwmYYs7fSKt-i2SnFxPGLo+9fczijR=U0Z7GaQhicA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1404501528.4384.4.camel@e130>

I agree that the new concept has some noteworthy downsides as
demonstrated in the Lexing-example.  Your proposed solution 2
(stringlike) would probably solve these issues from a safety point of
view.  The downside is that the complexity of string-handling would
increase even more, because then we would have three types to deal
with.  I personally prefer safety over convenience, but other people's
(especially beginner's) mileage may vary.

The Bigarray-approach doesn't seem appealing to me.  Strings are much
more lightweight, since they can be allocated cheaply on the
OCaml-heap.  E.g. String.create is about 10x-100x faster than
Bigarray.create.  That seems too big to ignore.

Regards,
Markus

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I've just posted a blog article where I criticize the new concept of
> immutable strings that will be available in OCaml 4.02 (as option):
>
> http://blog.camlcity.org/blog/bytes1.html
>
> In short my point is that it the new concept is not far reaching enough,
> and will even have negative impact on the code quality when it is not
> improved. I also present three ideas how to improve it.
>
> Gerd
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-04 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-04 19:18 Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-04 20:31 ` Anthony Tavener
2014-07-04 20:38   ` Malcolm Matalka
2014-07-04 23:44   ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-07-05 11:04   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-16 11:38     ` Damien Doligez
2014-07-04 21:01 ` Markus Mottl [this message]
2014-07-05 11:24   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-08 13:23     ` Jacques Garrigue
2014-07-08 13:37       ` Alain Frisch
2014-07-08 14:04         ` Jacques Garrigue
2014-07-28 11:14   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-07-28 15:51     ` Markus Mottl
2014-07-29  2:54       ` Yaron Minsky
2014-07-29  9:46         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-07-29 11:48         ` John F. Carr
2014-07-07 12:42 ` Alain Frisch
2014-07-08 12:24   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-09 13:54     ` Alain Frisch
2014-07-09 18:04       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2014-07-10  6:41         ` Nicolas Boulay
2014-07-14 17:40       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-07-08 18:15 ` mattiasw
2014-07-08 19:24   ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-07-08 19:27     ` Raoul Duke
2014-07-09 14:15   ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-07-14 17:45   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-07-21 15:06 ` Alain Frisch
     [not found]   ` <20140722.235104.405798419265248505.Christophe.Troestler@umons.ac.be>
2014-08-29 16:30     ` Damien Doligez

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