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From: "Gurr, David (MED, self)" <David.Gurr@med.ge.com>
To: Benedikt Grundmann <bgrundmann@gmx.net>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Modules and typing
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 14:27:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D4DBD8568F05D511A1C20002A55C008C09C29466@uswaumsx03medge.med.ge.com> (raw)

Hi, the .cmx files generated by ocamlopt do some of
what you mention.  -D

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benedikt Grundmann [mailto:bgrundmann@gmx.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:31 AM
> To: Gregory Morrisett
> Cc: Francois.Pottier@inria.fr; skaller@ozemail.com.au;
> caml-list@inria.fr
> Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Modules and typing
> 
> 
> > >  + require that abstract types are pointer types, as in 
> > > Modula-3 (?) and, more
> > >    recently, Cyclone
> > 
> > Actually, Cyclone has two different kinds of abstract types:
> > One abstracts pointer types (really, types that are compatible
> > with void*) and another kind that abstracts any type.  The latter
> > kind can only be used under a pointer.  I think this 
> corresponds more 
> > closely to what Modula-3 provides with it's notion of "ref"
> > types.  
> > 
> > There's another option that you didn't mention which is the approach
> > taken by Ada:  Have a notion of "private" types in interfaces, e.g.
> > 
> >   type t
> >   [private t = int]
> > 
> > The client is type-checked with t treated abstractly, but the 
> > compiler can then specialize the client knowing what the 
> implementation
> > of t is.  Of course, by leaking this information into the interface,
> > you're effectively losing separate compilation in the sense that
> > if the implementation of t changes, then its interface must also
> > change and all clients must then be (potentially) re-compiled.  But
> > this is a simple option which avoids some of the complexity that
> > you run into if you try to use abstract kinds to classify types
> > according to implementation details that a compiler might need
> > (e.g., size, calling-convention, and alignment constraints.)
> > 
> > -Greg
> 
> Another option related to this is to generate a compiler only 
> interface file
> (maybe even binary).  Which contains everything the compiler 
> needs to know
> about the implementation of an interface.  Everything 
> mentioned above applies
> to this solution too, with the added benefit that a reader of 
> the interface
> can't make stupid assumptions about the implementation which 
> might not be true
> in the next release :-)
> 
> 
> Bene
> 
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             reply	other threads:[~2002-05-02 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-02 19:27 Gurr, David (MED, self) [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-30 13:44 Gregory Morrisett
2002-04-30 23:57 ` John Max Skaller
2002-05-02 12:31 ` Benedikt Grundmann
2002-04-29 13:35 [Caml-list] Polymorphic Variants and Number Parameterized Typ es Krishnaswami, Neel
2002-04-29 14:16 ` [Caml-list] Polymorphic Variants and Number Parameterized Types Andreas Rossberg
2002-04-29 15:28   ` Francois Pottier
2002-04-30 10:04     ` [Caml-list] Modules and typing John Max Skaller
2002-04-30 11:51       ` Francois Pottier
2002-04-30 23:24         ` John Max Skaller
2002-05-01  8:08           ` Noel Welsh
2002-05-02  6:52             ` Francois Pottier

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