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From: David Allsopp <dra-news@metastack.com>
To: Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>,
	Aleksey Nogin <nogin@metaprl.org>
Cc: "caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Some comments on recent discussions
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:41:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E51C5B015DBD1348A1D85763337FB6D9C25863C6@Remus.metastack.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1323884194.7750.58.camel@samsung>

Gerd Stolpmann wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 14.12.2011, 09:27 -0800 schrieb Aleksey Nogin:
> > On 14.12.2011 04:52, Gerd Stolpmann wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think you will be able to convince everybody - at this point
> > > the issue becomes political in some sense: Do we want to give up our
> > > Unix habits just to support an OS we (often enough) do not like, and
> > > would only cover to get more love from the world?
> > >
> > > There could be an alternative: The "busybox approach". We could
> > > develop a toolkit that covers all the Unix commands we need for the
> > > existing build scripts. It would include easy things like cp, mv
> > > etc., but also a classic "make" (medium difficulty, note that it
> > > could reuse the godi_make code), and especially a POSIX shell. The
> > > latter is a bit of work, but not too much. I'd guess the overall
> > > effort takes not more than
> > > 1-2 weeks if done by somebody how knows the semantics of the tools
> > > very well.
> > >
> > > There are a number of advantages over Cygwin:
> > >  - No danger of running into licensing problems
> > >  - The Unix compatibility is only maintained for commands, but not on
> > >    the system call level (eaiser to use, less surprises, fewer
> > > deps,...)
> > >  - It would only be a small download, and easy to integrate into
> > >    installers
> >
> > Note that to a degree, OMake already provides the ability to do
> > Unix-style things under Windows.
> 
> I know, and this makes me quite optimistic that it is not that hard to
> develop standalone executables for the frequently used Unix utilities.

Any particular reason why the GnuWin32 project doesn't already fulfil this requirement (http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/)?


David


  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-14 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-06 15:24 Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-06 15:31 ` Joel Reymont
2011-12-06 23:03   ` Martin Jambon
2011-12-06 16:01 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2011-12-06 16:03 ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-06 16:56   ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-06 17:12 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-06 17:33 ` Alex Rubinsteyn
2011-12-06 17:53 ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-07  0:18   ` Paolo Donadeo
2011-12-07  1:00     ` oliver
2011-12-07  6:33       ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2011-12-07  1:48     ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-07  9:53       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-07 10:33     ` Pierre-Alexandre Voye
2011-12-07 11:18       ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-07 13:15         ` David MENTRE
2011-12-07 13:48           ` Alan Schmitt
2011-12-07 14:56           ` Ashish Agarwal
2011-12-07 15:52         ` oliver
2011-12-10 14:58         ` Xavier Leroy
2011-12-08  7:59       ` rixed
2011-12-08 10:37         ` oliver
2011-12-08 13:15         ` [Caml-list] Wanted book (Re: Some comments on recent discussions) Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2011-12-09 21:22           ` oliver
2011-12-09  7:13   ` [Caml-list] Some comments on recent discussions Martin Jambon
2011-12-10 20:32 ` Andrei Formiga
2011-12-10 21:01   ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 21:12     ` rixed
2011-12-10 21:24       ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 21:49         ` rixed
2011-12-10 22:45           ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-10 23:58       ` Hans Ole Rafaelsen
2011-12-11 10:25       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-11 10:06   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-13 17:41   ` oliver
2011-12-13  5:54 ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  7:15   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-13  8:21     ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  8:51       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-13  9:15         ` Gaius Hammond
2011-12-13 14:08           ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14  5:28           ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-13  9:51         ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-13  9:53         ` Adrien
2011-12-13 20:52           ` Jon Harrop
2011-12-14  6:03           ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14  9:34             ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-14 10:24               ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14 13:37                 ` Adrien
2011-12-14 14:24                   ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-14 15:27                   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 15:46                     ` Gaius Hammond
2011-12-14 15:49                     ` Adrien
2011-12-14 16:42                       ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-14 17:04                       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-15 21:38                         ` Adrien
2011-12-14 16:55                   ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-14 21:35                     ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-15 11:14                     ` Adrien
2011-12-14 12:52             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 13:25               ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-14 17:27               ` Aleksey Nogin
2011-12-14 17:36                 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-14 19:41                   ` David Allsopp [this message]
2011-12-15 10:29                     ` Adrien
2011-12-15 17:41                       ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 20:47                         ` Adrien
2011-12-15 21:20                           ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 11:25                     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 12:39                   ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-16 12:44                     ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-16 13:14                     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 14:11                       ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-16 14:50                         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 13:58                     ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-16 17:29                     ` Edgar Friendly
2011-12-14 18:41                 ` Dmitry Grebeniuk
2011-12-14 23:54               ` Martin DeMello
2011-12-15 10:03                 ` Adrien

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