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From: Frederick Akalin <akalin@akalin.cx>
To: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:17:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F9AD4095-822C-4E84-8406-33344C6A22FE@akalin.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0605192035040.10710@localhost.localdomain>


On May 19, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:

> Now, I realize the core reasons for the delay in moving to 64-bits  
> are industry wide.  Intel's Itanium fiasco delayed Intel  
> introducing a 64-bit chip at least 7 years.  And Microsoft seems to  
> be incapable of releasing a new OS- 32-bit or 64-bit.  But that, I  
> think, is the core of the problem- Ocaml's array limit is just one  
> of many symptoms.
>
> And that's my point- we should be looking to fix the underlying  
> problem, not looking to patch the symptoms.  Because often times  
> patching the symptoms and not addressing the core problem simply  
> makes the whole situation worse- the underlying problem simply  
> shows up in new ways, and the fix for the specific symptom often  
> causes new problems.
>
> Brian

I think that's an awfully simplistic point of view.  My problem is  
that I want to store more than 4 million items in an array.  You're  
suggesting moving to 64 bits?  And even if everyone magically moves  
to 64 bits, I can imagine that in the future someone will want to  
read more than 2^(64 - 10) items from a file into memory, as 64 bits  
isn't quite "number of atoms in the universe" big yet.

Fred


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-20  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-15 18:12 akalin
2006-05-15 18:22 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Cannasse
2006-05-15 20:32 ` Damien Doligez
2006-05-15 21:27   ` akalin
2006-05-15 22:51 ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-16  0:48 ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-16  9:57   ` Damien Doligez
2006-05-16 15:10     ` Markus Mottl
2006-05-16  8:01 ` Xavier Leroy
2006-05-16  8:20   ` Nicolas Cannasse
2006-05-19 17:13     ` Xavier Leroy
2006-05-19  5:57   ` Frederick Akalin
2006-05-19  6:21     ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 12:15     ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-19 19:36       ` akalin
2006-05-19 20:17         ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 16:28     ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-19 20:08       ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 21:26       ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-20  1:06         ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20 18:32           ` brogoff
2006-05-20 21:29             ` immutable strings II ([Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit) Oliver Bandel
2006-05-22 22:09               ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-20 21:11           ` immutable strings (Re: [Caml-list] " Oliver Bandel
2006-05-25  4:32             ` immutable strings (Re: " Stefan Monnier
2006-05-25  5:56               ` [Caml-list] " Martin Jambon
2006-05-25  7:23                 ` j h woodyatt
2006-05-25 10:22                   ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-25 19:28                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-25 11:14                 ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-25 19:42                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-26  6:51                   ` Alain Frisch
2006-05-25 17:31                 ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-25 19:54                   ` Martin Jambon
2006-05-25 11:18               ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-25 17:34                 ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-25 18:44                   ` Tom
2006-05-25 23:00                     ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-25 23:15                       ` Martin Jambon
2006-05-20  0:57       ` [Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit Brian Hurt
2006-05-20  1:17         ` Frederick Akalin [this message]
2006-05-20  1:52           ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20  9:08             ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 10:12               ` skaller
2006-05-20 11:06                 ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 12:02                   ` skaller
2006-05-20 21:42                 ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  1:24                   ` skaller
2006-05-21 14:10                     ` Oliver Bandel
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.63.0605200847530.10710@localhost.localdomain>
2006-05-20 19:52                 ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 21:45                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  9:26           ` Richard Jones
     [not found]             ` <5CE30707-5DCE-4A22-970E-A49C36F9C901@akalin.cx>
2006-05-22 10:40               ` Richard Jones
2006-05-20 10:51         ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 14:22           ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20 18:41             ` j h woodyatt
2006-05-20 19:37               ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-20 20:47             ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-26 18:34             ` Ken Rose
2006-05-20 22:07           ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-20 15:15         ` Don Syme
2006-05-20 22:15           ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  1:25             ` skaller

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