From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id CAA15826; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:02:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA16064 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:02:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from outbound28-2.lax.untd.com (vlan1-1.bigip2.lax.untd.com [64.136.28.160]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3E03ljq006130 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:03:47 +0200 Received: from outbound28-2.lax.untd.com (smtp02.lax.untd.com [10.130.24.122]) by smtpout01.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABAH27HVAN2MPHJ for (sender ); Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:17:07 -0700 (PST) Received: (qmail 11309 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 23:16:49 -0000 Received: from dsc04-sei-wa-207-220-159-173.rasserver.net (HELO vangogh) (207.220.159.173) by smtp02.lax.untd.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 23:16:49 -0000 From: "Brandon J. Van Every" To: Subject: RE: [Caml-list] suggestion: do not link to www.ocaml.org Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:25:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-ContentStamp: 10:5:3185055055 X-MAIL-INFO: 135d79389d793801203814c1ad44040514d505143d8d144d09f150 X-UNTD-STORE-INFO: URL:grisoft.com) X-Miltered: at nez-perce by Joe's j-chkmail ("http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr")! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.17; brandon:99 caml-list:01 zed:99 geeks:01 dollar:99 ethic:99 python:01 brandon:99 seattle:99 2004:99 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 caml:01 icfp:03 canonical:03 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 293 Zed A. Shaw > > You know, as kind of an outsider, I didn't know there was any > other site for ocaml. As one recently interested in OCaml, I concur. It took me awhile to find caml.inria.fr and to realize that it was in fact the canonical site. From a marketing perspective, the ICFP and the Language Shootouts are the reasons I became interested in OCaml, there are no other reasons. A number of other languages have the features, and some have much better libraries, packages, and industrial provenness. What OCaml apparently has is performance. The only thing I intensely dislike about the www.ocaml.org website is the slogan, "The programming tool of choice for discriminating hackers." This suggests that OCaml is a toy, used by exploratory geeks who don't know the value of a dollar. I prefer INRIA's utter blandness to ocaml.org's championing of the hacker geek ethic. Don't get me started on the Python Software Foundation's utter inability to market anything. Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA "The pioneer is the one with the arrows in his back." - anonymous entrepreneur --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.643 / Virus Database: 411 - Release Date: 3/25/2004 ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners