From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id HAA01077; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:27:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA01692 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:27:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from outbound28-2.lax.untd.com (vlan1-1.bigip2.lax.untd.com [64.136.28.160]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3E5RkYM024582 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:27:47 +0200 Received: from outbound28-2.lax.untd.com (smtp03.lax.untd.com [10.130.24.123]) by smtpout06.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABAH3U7YAU54YFS for (sender ); Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:27:18 -0700 (PST) Received: (qmail 21366 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2004 05:27:04 -0000 Received: from dsc04-sei-wa-207-220-158-234.rasserver.net (HELO vangogh) (207.220.158.234) by smtp03.lax.untd.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2004 05:27:04 -0000 From: "Brandon J. Van Every" To: Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Re: GODI Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:35:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1081902856.24588.146.camel@ice.gerd-stolpmann.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal X-ContentStamp: 12:6:1392447368 X-MAIL-INFO: 32b5a5b0d1a5b03480b0d5d4adfd9984d57d84d564f0d555cdbd49 X-Miltered: at concorde by Joe's j-chkmail ("http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr")! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; brandon:99 caml-list:01 gerd:01 stolpmann:01 fwiw:01 model:01 stupid:01 idealism:01 brandon:99 seattle:99 2004:99 compiler:01 backend:01 ocaml:01 msvc:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 298 Gerd Stolpmann wrote: > > The other question is which compiler is used as backend. I can imagine > to call MSVC, but there are limitations because of GODI's > organization: > MSVC costs money. Don't forget that GODI is for free, and there isn't > any way to collect money for the necessary licenses. I must admit I > would also have problems to motivate myself for such a project. I am not interested in Free Software as in 'free beer', I am interested as in 'free speech'. And FWIW I'm on the MIT/BSD side of the debate. If you're going to give it away, give it away completely. If it's too valuable to give away, don't. I want my OCaml code to be commercially useful for game development. I'm only interested in Open Source as a business model - where is the *profit* of the software commons? I think, it is in fixing stupid things that are a PITA for everyone over and over again. Like package management for instance. I could care less about FSF style idealism. I want things to work on the platform I'm stuck with for the forseeable future. > When you look to other languages: There are often commercial interests > behind ports to Windows (e.g. ActiveState). I don't think the O'Caml > market is ready for such a thing. Things don't get ready by waiting around for others to act. People who want to get it ready, are what get it ready. Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA "The pioneer is the one with the arrows in his back." - anonymous entrepreneur --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.643 / Virus Database: 411 - Release Date: 3/25/2004 ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners