From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id QAA21713; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:30:53 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21584 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:30:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f85EUon11091; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:30:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (patrick@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id f85EUcO66130; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:30:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from patrick@watson.org) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:30:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick M Doane To: Daniel de Rauglaudre cc: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Different types of streams In-Reply-To: <20010905140610.V5393@verdot.inria.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Daniel de Rauglaudre wrote: > > I don't think anyone is arguing against fixing the implementation > > Camlp4 fixes the implementation. It is complicated to add the same > code in OCaml because it is about manipulatation of pieces of program, > which is very easy and simple in Camlp4 and very complicated with > OCaml. If you are not happy, implement the optimization yourself in > OCaml. Good luck. What is wrong with: - Including camlp4 in the standard caml distribution - Modifiying the caml compilers to always use camlp4 for preprocessing. To the user, this fixes the implementation without any modification to how they use their tools. BTW, it has been my impression that the Caml team is not too interested in external development, so implementing the optimization without camlp4 is not much of an option. > The point is *not* to remove streams!!!! Streams and their LL1 parsers > remain!!! I just ask people to preprocess by "-pp camlp4o". Is that > so complicated? Are you allergic to my program? I'm not allergic to your program, but other people may be. Until camlp4 is part of the caml distribution, the proposal is still to remove streams. For developers who distribute source code, we now have to demand that another package be installed on the user's system. Caml will be for the better when these two tools are merged. Patrick Doane ------------------- Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr