From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id OAA10731; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:31:55 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: (from weis@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id OAA10796 for caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:31:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27454 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:41:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from sj1-3-4-9.iserver.com (sj1-3-4-9.iserver.com [128.121.214.42]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id fADGfWj20253 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:41:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 43427 invoked by uid 16863); 13 Nov 2001 16:41:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([unknown]) (envelope-sender ) by unknown (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Nov 2001 16:41:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:41:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Brian Rogoff To: "Krishnaswami, Neel" cc: Caml Subject: Re: Receptive Tool Vendors (was: Re: [Caml-list] Jihad) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Krishnaswami, Neel wrote: > David Fox [mailto:dsfox@cogsci.ucsd.edu] wrote: > > "Eric Newhuis" writes: > > > > > > Am I wrong? What is the current state of functional > > > programming language acceptance? > > > > I would say it is low world wide. As a matter of fact, many of the > > engineers in the U.S. who are unaware of functional programming are > > foreigners! I'm being facetious, but I think that injecting > > nationality into this discussion is unhelpful and annoying. > > Locale matters somewhat, I'd think. I say this because I live in > Boston, and the MIT/Lisp connection is somewhat felt even now. It's good that some things don't change much. > Mostly, in the sense that startups are able to get ahold of Lisp > hackers who gripe about how defective Java is. :/ Presumably the > same is true in and around Stanford. Nope. When I left Snodfart a few classes were going from C++ to Java but there were also transitions to C++. Realize that many (most?) hackers don't come from CS departments but from engineering departments. Most programmers I meet have never heard of OCaml before, though almost all of them have heard about it after :-). > I guess the Lelisp effort morphed into Caml, I think there's overlap, but I think this description is inaccurate. Try this http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~cousinea/Caml/caml_history.html > so perhaps the situation is better in France? No doubt there are more people exposed to Caml there. -- Brian ------------------- Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr