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From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@bpr.best.vwh.net>
To: William Harold Newman <william.newman@airmail.net>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] limits on mutual recursion and modules?
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:27:24 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10111220358320.12326-100000@bpr.best.vwh.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011121195339.A24894@rootless>

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, William Harold Newman wrote:
> I'm trying to understand the limits on mutual recursion in ML.
> 
> I've seen the hack
>   type 'a combination = T1 of int | T2 of 'a | T3 of 'a * 'a
>   class virtual test =
>     object
>       method virtual get: test combination
>     end
> for mutual recursion between classes and modules in OCaml. That doesn't 

You mean between classes and types here, of course. 

> leave me with much confidence that I can figure out whether a particular
> kind of mutual recursion is possible.:-|
> 
> I've seen various statements about recursion between modules being
> impossible, but I'm not sure exactly how severe a limitation this is
> in practice, especially given the possibility of hacks like the one
> above.

That hack, which I've seen called the "parameterization trick" (we really
need a better, sexier sounding name for it) is the way you currently 
create a recursion between a type definition and a functor instantiation.

> In particular, I'm curious whether it's possible to define
> a record type Foo which contains a functor-defined data structure which 
> refer to objects of type Foo. E.g., in OCaml is there any way
> to define a record type Foo one of whose fields is a Set of Foo?

You use that same trick. It also means that you must make a polymorphic
version of Set to participate in the recursion; the library Set won't do. 
Check this out 

http://caml.inria.fr/archives/200010/msg00154.html

It's my guess that every frequent user of OCaml or SML bangs into this
within their first 9 months of serious ML programming, and most likely
long before that.

> In general, I'd be interested in any pointers to treatments of this
> problem and the theoretical limits involved. 

http://cristal.inria.fr/~hirschow/index.html

as he is the one working on it and he has pointers to related work there. 

-- Brian
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-22 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-22  1:53 William Harold Newman
2001-11-22  4:27 ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
2001-11-22  4:40   ` William Harold Newman
2001-11-29 20:04 Tom Hirschowitz

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