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From: Brian Rogoff <bpr@best.com>
To: John Max Skaller <skaller@ozemail.com.au>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] recursive modules redux, & interface files
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:30:17 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103272021570.4714-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3AC11021.D0D6BF4A@ozemail.com.au>

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, John Max Skaller wrote:
> Brian Rogoff wrote:
> > I agree with this general principle, and to be honest, I haven't found in
> > my own programming a compelling case where module spanning mutually
> > recursive function definitions were an issue. Is it possible to produce a
> > reasonably sized example, Hendrik (or Chris)? 
> 
> 	I have such an example. In the Vyper interpreter, there is a
> very large module which handles execution of ASTs, which contains
> almost all the interpretive code. It was not possible to break this
> module into further pieces because of the mutual recursion.

This seems simialr to Fergus Henderson's example in the Mercury compiler. 
I thought his rationale was convincing (the file just got too big) and 
I assume he and you considered various refactorings to keep from splitting 
the module and decided against them. So even though there's practically no
better example of functions that belong in the same module as mutually
recursive ones, pragmatics suggests that you split them. None of the
compiler like programs I've worked on have become that big yet. 

> [I actually _did_ do this, then undid it, because of the excessive 
> number of extra arguments that had to be passed to make it work]

Yes, that can be a problem with the trick/hack of passing extra arguments. 
Did you consider the trick Daniel showed using function references which
get initialized in the right order during the calls? I don't like
introducing references unnecessarily but it might be useful until there is 
a cleaner solution. 

-- Brian


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  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-28  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-18 23:05 Chris Hecker
2001-03-19  0:01 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-19 11:04 ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-19 11:41   ` Chris Hecker
2001-03-20 17:43     ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-21  4:03       ` Chris Hecker
2001-03-21  5:10         ` Patrick M Doane
2001-03-21  9:27           ` Chris Hecker
2001-03-21 18:20           ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-22  0:03             ` Patrick M Doane
2001-03-22  0:22               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-22 10:26                 ` [Caml-list] duplication implementation/interface Judicael Courant
2001-03-22 11:16                   ` [Caml-list] about typedefs... (was: duplication implementation/interface) Olivier Andrieu
2001-03-22 17:14                   ` [Caml-list] duplication implementation/interface Brian Rogoff
2001-03-22  9:11               ` [Caml-list] recursive modules redux, & interface files Francois Pottier
2001-03-21 23:24           ` John Prevost
2001-03-22  0:00             ` Patrick M Doane
2001-03-21 18:18         ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-21 18:19         ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-22 11:40   ` Markus Mottl
2001-03-21 18:41 ` Xavier Leroy
2001-03-22  0:23   ` Patrick M Doane
2001-03-22 12:02   ` Hendrik Tews
2001-03-22 13:01     ` Markus Mottl
2001-03-22 16:56       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-22 17:13         ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2001-03-23 17:30         ` Fergus Henderson
2001-03-23 18:04           ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-23 20:35             ` [Caml-list] Why People Aren't Using OCAML? (was Haskell) Mattias Waldau
2001-03-26  2:29             ` [Caml-list] recursive modules redux, & interface files Fergus Henderson
2001-03-27 22:11         ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-28  4:30           ` Brian Rogoff [this message]
2001-04-05 17:07             ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-27  8:21       ` Hendrik Tews
2001-03-30 10:27   ` [Caml-list] parser combinators Kevin Backhouse
2001-04-08 18:28     ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2001-03-22 11:55 [Caml-list] recursive modules redux, & interface files Dave Berry
2001-03-22 12:01 ` Markus Mottl
2001-03-27  6:29 ` John Max Skaller
2001-03-22 18:04 Dave Berry
2001-03-23  7:54 ` Tom Hirschowitz
2001-03-23 12:18   ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2001-03-27  8:49   ` Hendrik Tews
2001-03-23 10:33 Dave Berry
2001-03-23 20:33 Don Syme
2001-03-27  9:00 ` Xavier Leroy
2001-03-27 14:38 Don Syme
2001-03-27 17:05 Manuel Fahndrich

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