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From: malc <malc@pulsesoft.com>
To: Thorsten Ohl <ohl@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: [Caml-list] Re: Specialization (was: Inlining across functors)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:35:28 +0400 (MSD)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208201025310.926-100000@home.oyster.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15713.27612.63106.168053@wptx47.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de>

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Thorsten Ohl wrote:

> malc  <malc@pulsesoft.com> writes:
> 
> > With http://algol.prosalg.no/~malc/code/patches/specfun.tar.gz 
> > (patch against 3.04) you will get this instead:
> > 
> > *** Linearized code                                                             
> > Opt_f2_72:                                                                      
> >   A/11[%ecx] := [env/10[%ecx] + 12]                                             
> >   A/12[%ecx] := [A/11[%ecx]]                                                    
> >   tailcall "Opt_f_62" R/0[%eax]                                                 
> >   R/1[%ebx]                                                                     
> >   R/2[%ecx]   
> 
> Neat!
> 
> > What will be specialized: frist order non-curried functors
> 
> Unfortunately, the cases where my code would benefit most are all
> curried and or higher-order functors.  E.g., I have beauties like
> 
>     module Tagged (Tagger : Tagger) (PT : Tuple.Poly)
> 	(Stat : Stat_Maker) (T : Topology.T with type 'a children = 'a PT.t)
> 	(P : Momentum.T) (M : Model.T) =
>       struct 
> 	...
>       end
> 
> where the signature Momentum.T can be implemented by simple bitmask
> operations and since it is used _very_ often, specialization would
> help a great deal.  The situation for symoblic algebra is similar.

If i remember correctly curried functors werent implemented because they 
cant be mapped neatly into current code, with hacks here and there it was 
possible, but i wanted to create half-decent and semi-readable code. Maybe 
there are other obstacles as well, it's been a while.

> 
> I guess that the major obstacle for generalizing your approach to
> specialization is in preventing code bloat.  Or am I wrong?

More than code bloat(which is tunable in case of my patch) lack of 
interest on part of Inria team has much bigger impact.

> 
> Fine-grained control for specialization (like your syntax extension)
> at the point of functor application would be very useful.  The above
> code could probably gain a constant factor larger than 10, if I could
> specialize curried and higher-order functors. [At crunch time, I can
> do this by hand of course, but--also for educational reasons--it would
> be nice to let the compiler take care of this.]

There's one thing i should mention, im not a type teorist, lambda calculus 
expert and so on. Specialization like it is implemented(simple rewriting 
of functor argument in functor body with some care to preserve typing) is
what SML/NJ does as well. Then again, types that specfun produces are a 
bit off w.r.t vanilla Caml (they used to be 1:1 but, then one bump was 
noticed and they stoped to be). I belive that if Jacques or Xavier or 
anyone else on the team was interested in this feature it could have been 
added in a matter of days, alas, they dont, and there is little that can 
be done.

-- 
mailto:malc@pulsesoft.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-20  6:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-18 17:17 [Caml-list] O'Caml vs C++: a little benchmark Oleg
2002-08-18 18:00 ` William Chesters
2002-08-18 19:06   ` Oleg
2002-08-18 21:37     ` William Chesters
2002-08-19 13:02   ` Xavier Leroy
2002-08-19 13:58     ` [Caml-list] Inlining across functors (was: O'Caml vs C++: a little benchmark) Thorsten Ohl
2002-08-19 21:16       ` malc
2002-08-19 22:06         ` [Caml-list] Specialization (was: Inlining across functors) Thorsten Ohl
2002-08-20  6:35           ` malc [this message]
2002-08-20  6:25         ` [Caml-list] Inlining across functors (was: O'Caml vs C++: a little benchmark) malc
2002-08-19 14:39     ` [Caml-list] O'Caml vs C++: a little benchmark Oleg
2002-08-19 15:15     ` William Chesters
2002-08-18 19:16 ` Markus Mottl
2002-08-18 19:58   ` Oleg
2002-08-18 22:59     ` Markus Mottl
2002-08-19 13:12 ` malc
2002-08-19 13:22 ` malc
2002-08-23 21:05 ` John Max Skaller
2002-08-23 21:35   ` Oleg
2002-08-28 13:47     ` John Max Skaller
2002-08-28 14:34       ` Alain Frisch
2002-08-28 17:23       ` inlining tail-recursive functions (Re: [Caml-list] O'Caml vs C++: a little benchmark) Oleg
2002-08-31  1:13         ` John Max Skaller

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